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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by Analytic Theist View Post
      This Sankari is an Australian.
      So was Evangelion. He and his brother fortigurn (who does use the same username there) are both Christadelphians. They're a fringe cult that among other things denies the Trinity. I trounced Evangelion some years ago on the topics of Wisdom Christology (in which his main tactic was to deny, deny, deny the clear parallels between Wisdom texts and the NT), as well as on the authenticity of Mark 16:9-20 (in which his main tactic was to quote fringe authors, and crap from obscure 1800s sources). They're both chiefly best at overestimating their own genius.

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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by Rational Gaze View Post
      Sounds like a kind of cheese.
      Cheese has more culture.
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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by Raphael View Post
      Cheese has more culture.
      And taste.
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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by Analytic Theist View Post
      he replied that he doesn't need to respond because Holding is outside of the mainstream.
      This coming from a Christadelphian?

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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Well, this is a good place to note...we have:

      On one side: Richard Carrier and a handful of fanatic followers/mythicists like Ben "Moron Error" Schuldt, Vridar, Earl Doherty, and little Stevie Carr

      On the other side, laying in to Carrier, I've noted:

      Bart Ehrman (leading)
      R. Joseph Hoffmann
      Maurice Casey (ahead)
      James McGrath
      Chris Hallquist
      "AIGBusted"
      Thom Stark (! -- yes, he's going after Carrier's claim of a dying Messiah in Judaism before Jesus....unwittingly arguing on MY side re TIF!)



      DJ (Loftus) is begging for peace and staying on the sidelines. That's one of the smartest things he's done in years.

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      I'm just hoping it gets turned into a major motion picture. This is too enjoyable to miss.
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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by jpholding View Post
      Well, this is a good place to note...we have:

      On one side: Richard Carrier and a handful of fanatic followers/mythicists like Ben "Moron Error" Schuldt, Vridar, Earl Doherty, and little Stevie Carr

      On the other side, laying in to Carrier, I've noted:

      Bart Ehrman (leading)
      R. Joseph Hoffmann
      Maurice Casey (ahead)
      James McGrath
      Chris Hallquist
      "AIGBusted"
      Thom Stark (! -- yes, he's going after Carrier's claim of a dying Messiah in Judaism before Jesus....unwittingly arguing on MY side re TIF!)



      DJ (Loftus) is begging for peace and staying on the sidelines. That's one of the smartest things he's done in years.

      Please note if you want to add any names to either list.
      How about you add "all of biblical scholarship" to your list? Seems appropriate.
      There is no need to be worried by facetious people who try to make the Christian hope of 'Heaven' ridiculous by saying they do not want 'to spend eternity playing harps'. The answer to such people is that if they cannot understand books written for grown-ups, they should not talk about them.
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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by Benson Shays View Post
      How about you add "all of biblical scholarship" to your list? Seems appropriate.
      Probably so, but it's easier to just do a list on those who have weighed in.

      I just read where Carrier says Hoffman is insane. The next time some Skeptic whines about MY riposte....

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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by jpholding View Post

      I just read where Carrier says Hoffman is insane
      Such vitriol. Mike Licona would never approve.

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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by Manwë Súlimo View Post
      Such vitriol. Mike Licona would never approve.
      You don't get it. It's only bad for us to be mean because Jesus was never mean. And we like Jesus. STUPID Xians.
      There is no need to be worried by facetious people who try to make the Christian hope of 'Heaven' ridiculous by saying they do not want 'to spend eternity playing harps'. The answer to such people is that if they cannot understand books written for grown-ups, they should not talk about them.
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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Did you get a chance to have a word with Carrier about these issues at/before/after the debate, JP?

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      Quote Originally posted by BlacJac06 View Post
      Did you get a chance to have a word with Carrier about these issues at/before/after the debate, JP?
      Relevant anecdote: when I asked Carrier back to the church for a second debate, he wasn't down with defending the Christ-myth. I didn't think much of it. With his Bayes Theorem book coming out this month, however, it's starting to make sense.
      There is no need to be worried by facetious people who try to make the Christian hope of 'Heaven' ridiculous by saying they do not want 'to spend eternity playing harps'. The answer to such people is that if they cannot understand books written for grown-ups, they should not talk about them.
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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by TwilightPhoenix View Post
      I'm just hoping it gets turned into a major motion picture. This is too enjoyable to miss.
      OK... so who would play Carrier, Ehrman, etc etc if this were turned into a movie in 10 years time (a la The Social Network) ?
      Because every forum needs a Jimbo.

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      Re: Ehrman's "Did Jesus Exist"

      Quote Originally posted by BlacJac06 View Post
      Did you get a chance to have a word with Carrier about these issues at/before/after the debate, JP?
      Nope. After that episode with the diuretics I wasn't up to it anyway -- since he was willing to be cordial, I went along with that and saved what limited umph I had left for the debate itself.

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      I'm sorry, I made a mistake so I pulled my post.
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