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  • #31
    There is a part of me that wishes that I could say that the Scriptures teach the eventual universal reconciliation of humankind, but I cannot find the teaching there.
    For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      wel i dont know if hel iz a litural playce of fyer and brimstown oar knot but I dew gnow that it iz nowt a plac i whant to vizit.*


      *I just wanted to give you some more pleasure in correcting my spelling and grammar.
      For Neo-Remonstration (Arminian/Remonstrant ruminations): <https://theremonstrant.blogspot.com>

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      • #33
        Thenk kyoo Kynd sihr.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Sparko View Post
          wel i dont know if hel iz a litural playce of fyer and brimstown oar knot but I dew gnow that it iz nowt a plac i whant to vizit.*




          *I just wanted to give you some more pleasure in correcting my spelling and grammar.

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          • #35
            Because the original bible was written in English, right?

            The bible is clear that there is punishment for those who don't belong to God and are evil. Everlasting punishment. You can call it a potato cellar if you want, but I don't want to go there.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Sparko View Post
              Because the original bible was written in English, right?

              The bible is clear that there is punishment for those who don't belong to God and are evil. Everlasting punishment. You can call it a potato cellar if you want, but I don't want to go there.

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              • #37
                Last edited by Sparko; 01-04-2018, 11:10 AM.

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                • #38
                  Strewth/strike me pink/blow me down with a feather ... they did say just that.


                  Whatever its origin, Jesus endorsed the concept as valid. He likened it to a prison.




                  THUS THE IDEA OF A BURNING PLACE OF EVERLASTING TORMENT ("HELL") IN THE AFTER LIFE HAS IT ROOTS IN PAGANISM & NOT TO BE FOUND IN THE BIBLE!
                  Iy see~. The Book of Revelation is not part of the Bible.


                  It would be a hard task to equate Gehenna with (the realm) of Hades, but even if the task was successfully completed, "is able" does not mean "does."

                  "We ... ? see??"

                  The record shows that Jesus said "God CAN destroy the soul in GEHENNA" (demonstrably a physical place on Earth). Just occasionally it is of benefit to pay attention to the detail; "CAN" and "GEHENNA" ... not "DOES" and "(the realm) OF HADES"
                  In Jewish thought, past and present, Sheol is the abode of the dead: the place where the souls of the dead abide/live. Significantly, Sheol is translated to Koine Greek as "(the realm) of Hades." To the best of my knowledge, not a single reference to Sheol unambiguously equates it to a mere grave.
                  Last edited by tabibito; 01-07-2018, 07:18 AM.
                  1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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                  Scripture before Tradition:
                  but that won't prevent others from
                  taking it upon themselves to deprive you
                  of the right to call yourself Christian.
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                  • #39
                    Jesus' soul died on the cross (Isaiah 53:10, 12, Mark 10:45). And it was after words that Jesus died in His body (John 19:28-30, Luke 23:46). And in the resurrection Jesus soul was not left in Hades (Acts 2:27).
                    . . . the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; . . . -- Romans 1:16 KJV

                    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV

                    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1 KJV

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                    • #40
                      There is only one time in Hell: Too late.

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