April 2012 Screwballs

[Hamster]

We don't have any concrete evidence that Pilate wasn't a ghost

[fm93]

Anti-screwball to the president of my seminary for this, including:

The Millennial generation self identifies as approximately 7% Christian. This is only 2% from being eligible to be classified as an unreached people-group. This means that all churches in North America must regain their missional footing. We are a people on a mission. North America is the fastest growing mission field in the world. This, of course, involves social action, healing, evangelism, apologetics, radical service and much, much more. But, we can no longer assume that we are at the center of Western culture. We are now on the margins prophetically helping this new generation imagine the even greater realities of the inbreaking kingdom.

Do you by any chance know where he gets these stats from?

[jpholding]

http://www.amazon.com/review/R3JD1A9...x36180YMUIYGGQ

Here's a real looner...

Robert, thank you for clarifying this because I don't really get Huller's thesis. I do agree that works like this are needed to break up open the current paradigm. Call it brainstorming.

JP Holding--I've become more aware of your existence, mostly through reviews here on Amazon. I have to say that I view you as poison. I highly doubt that anyone who can stoop to your level of vitriol can engage a cogent discussion. I'm sure you've heard this before, but just count on me to ignore your opinions. A wise person would immediately doubt the veracity of anything that pours forth from your keyboard. I notice you spoke up for Sparky, but didn't mention any of the other, suddenly silenced, aliases. Yes, you might have one stool in Sparky, but clearly you do engage in exactly the tactic you were accused of. Are you also KC James? I suspect so. How cowardly and deceitful! (I hope you are automatically informed of this post.) I take it you imagine yourself a "Christian" in some sense of the word. I was raised in the Christian faith and you, sir, are no Christian. You spout rhetoric that might led those weak of mind to think you are a Christian, but you do not hold to the ideals and model of Jesus Christ.

Thank you, Robert Price, for your work. Sorry you have to put up with the likes of Holding.

I invited him here.

[One Bad Pig]

Screwball to Wikipedia for being unreliable and unresponsive to errors.

Link

We knew that already, but it's nice to have independent confirmation.

[ukchristian28]

I have a video on my channel asking atheists what they are talking about when they say religion attacks science, holds up progress and is trying to put us back in the dark ages. As expected the only examples I get are young earth creationism (which doesn't deny science outright) and the story of Galileo. Today a stupid fundy atheist going byPurportedlyMagicJew left the phrase "Eppur si muove" on my video, which is what Galileo supposedly said at his trial. A few seconds of research would reveal that it is doubtful he even said that, but we know how little research fundy atheists do. So I did what is very predictable for me. I directed him to J.P's "Miss Dusters" video. His reply:

I fail to see your point.

Mostly because im not going to watch a video on this topic which censors opinion, ironically much like the church tried to do to Galileo.

What I find really ironic is that he is behaving in pretty much the same way as he thinks the Roman Catholic Church behaved towards Galileo. He makes a claim. Evidence is presented against his claim. He refuses to look at the evidence and be open to correction.

[rogue06]

What I find really ironic is that he is behaving in pretty much the same way as he thinks the Roman Catholic Church behaved towards Galileo. He makes a claim. Evidence is presented against his claim. He refuses to look at the evidence and be open to correction.

Sounds like some of Galileo's colleagues at Padua including what Galileo called “the principal professor of philosophy” who steadfastly refused to even look through a telescope saying that if what they saw contradicted what they knew then it must be the result of some sort of trickery.

[jpholding]

Sounds like some of Galileo's colleagues at Padua including what Galileo called “the principal professor of philosophy” who steadfastly refused to even look through a telescope saying that if what they saw contradicted what they knew then it must be the result of some sort of trickery.

Er....that's actually a myth, according to James Hannam.

[rogue06]

Er....that's actually a myth, according to James Hannam.

Seems to be a grain of truth behind the story though. http://bedejournal.blogspot.com/2006...-galileos.html

[jpholding]

As expected the only examples I get are young earth creationism (which doesn't deny science outright) and the story of Galileo. Today a stupid fundy atheist going byPurportedlyMagicJew

He left an f-bomb on my main comments page so he must not be as principled as he says he is.

And he left one on the Galileo vid too -- deleted of course, uses the f-bomb to suggest I should make one about the Pope (??) molesting children.

[ukchristian28]

He left an f-bomb on my main comments page so he must not be as principled as he says he is.

And he left one on the Galileo vid too -- deleted of course, uses the f-bomb to suggest I should make one about the Pope (??) molesting children.

His latest comment in response to my pointing out that he is behaving like he thinks the RCC behaved towards Galileo:

If i behaved like the Roman Catholic Church id be [having sex with] children and hiding behind the naziPope, theyve come on in leaps and bounds from discrediting scientists.

He also said this about your video J.P:

Its a condescending video with a [censored] irritating voice over, present your argument maturely or dont bother.
I like how you call me narrow minded while refusing to take the argument at face value and insisting on picking out little discrepancies that are totally irrelevant to the fact that the sun does not move around the earth, and the church considered this idea heresy...

[jpholding]

His latest comment in response to my pointing out that he is behaving like he thinks the RCC behaved towards Galileo:

Hmm yeah, probably used the same vocab word, right? I asked him if he wanted a vid done because he was one of the kids. That ought to get him going.

He also said this about your video J.P:

Oh. Maturely. Yes, I agree. Next time I'll be sure and use a lot of f-bombs.



Meanwhile, another surprise for the clown as soon as the rendering is done....

[ukchristian28]

Oh. Maturely. Yes, I agree. Next time I'll be sure and use a lot of f-bombs.



Meanwhile, another surprise for the clown as soon as the rendering is done....

I wouldn't be able to quote his latest comment without getting moderated, but it seems he's somewhat obsessed with sex, lol.

[Rayado]

I've gotten my grubby paws on a copy of Wandering in Darkness by Eleonore Stump for a few days, and it's just amazing: eighteen pages in and she's just completely demolished everything John Loftus has ever said about the problem of suffering. I would pay very good money to see them discuss the problem of suffering, because he doesn't stand a chance.

[Manwë Súlimo]

"Maybe the cowboy hat accentuates the image, but this debate reminds me of a rodeo. I see a point here, a point there, and a lot of bull in between." ---Dinesh D'Souza on John Loftus (paraphrased)

[ukchristian28]

Hmm yeah, probably used the same vocab word, right? I asked him if he wanted a vid done because he was one of the kids. That ought to get him going.

Well he says he has a personal principle of not watching censored videos. That's really the reason why I have comments completely open on my own videos. No one can accuse me of being afraid of criticism or not caring about free speech. It is considered bad form on Youtube not to have a completely open comment policy. I understand your reasons for having your policy but you're always going to be accused of censorship unfortunately.