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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      That he is so incompetent he still thinks he can lie his behind off and not get caught.
      Ooo... a politician caught in a lie -- indeed, this is such a completely unprecedented event that it can only be explained by incompetence...

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      Quote Originally posted by JimL View Post
      You are questioning Obama"s intelligence, really, a Harvard law grad, editor of the Harvard law review? You're not biased at all are you?? Obama did not suggest that the Supreme Court did not have the authority to deep six the ACA, he obviously knows they have the power to do so, just like they elected George W., he merely opined that he didn't believe that they would, that he believed they would use judicial restraint and defer on a close call to the legislature. Whats so surprising about that? What would you expect him to say? Ater all thats what he wants them to do.
      a knowledgeable person is not necessarily intelligent... which is why i typically pronounce/spell both educated and intelligent as edumacated and intelagent respectively. it is very possible for one person to know everything (not literally) there is to know about the universe and not be able to piece together that its offensive to step on another's shoes.
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      i find it amazing that a person who requests another to demonstrate that they are not terrorists by some small action like making the claim they are not terrorists, becomes terrorized himself, and not by the terrorists or even the proposed terrorists; but by those who seek tolerance and understanding. i believe that fits the definition of ironic doesn't it?

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      Quote Originally posted by Nathan Poe View Post
      Ooo... a politician caught in a lie -- indeed, this is such a completely unprecedented event that it can only be explained by incompetence...
      There really should be a law against replying to my posts when you have a sub-human IQ because your lack of reading comprehension borders on criminal.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      There really should be a law against replying to my posts when you have a sub-human IQ because your lack of reading comprehension borders on criminal.
      If the law applies to your own posts as well, we could solve the problem before it ever starts.

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      Quote Originally posted by Nathan Poe View Post
      If the law applies to your own posts as well, we could solve the problem before it ever starts.
      Sure, the law can apply to my posts... because I make it a habit of replying to my own posts.

      Kindergarten "I know you are but what am I" retorts are lame enough. Actually botching one this badly requires a true virtuoso of stupid to achieve.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      Sure, the law can apply to my posts... because I make it a habit of replying to my own posts.

      Kindergarten "I know you are but what am I" retorts are lame enough. Actually botching one this badly requires a true virtuoso of stupid to achieve.
      Interesting... So you demonstrate poor reading comprehension after complaining about poor reading comprehension? If I find you a dictionary with enough pictures to keep your attention, you just might find one of your own post under "irony."

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      Quote Originally posted by Nathan Poe View Post
      Interesting... So you demonstrate poor reading comprehension after complaining about poor reading comprehension?
      Generous, humble individual of noble pedigree and good breeding: "There really should be a law against replying to my posts"
      Moron: "If the law applies to your own posts as well"

      Keep spinning, I'm gonna do a few loads of laundry on your head.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor View Post
      There really should be a law against replying to my posts when you have a sub-human IQ because your lack of reading comprehension borders on criminal.
      Wow. Nathan is one of the sharpest members at TWeb. Why so nasty?

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      Quote Originally posted by SarahB View Post
      Wow. Nathan is one of the sharpest members at TWeb. Why so nasty?
      probably because we don't share the manufactured outrage at Obama for his little gaffe.

      I mean really -- if Obama was as horrible as the Right makes him out to be, there'd be plenty of real issues to complain about.

      But when Obama starts complaining about the Supreme Court -- the Right starts howling "Trademark Infringement!" -- complaining about activist judges is their schtick, after all.

      But let's not make this about me The topic is Obama, after all...

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      Quote Originally posted by Nathan Poe View Post
      probably because we don't share the manufactured outrage at Obama for his little gaffe.
      Outrage? I'm not outraged at all. Why would I be outraged that a politician I despise made a "gaffe"?

      Oh right, you're a moron. Moving on.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by SarahB View Post
      Wow. Nathan is one of the sharpest members at TWeb.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Nathan Poe View Post
      I mean really -- if Obama was as horrible as the Right makes him out to be, there'd be plenty of real issues to complain about.
      Thing is that many on the left are making Obama out to be about as bad as the right is making him out to be, particularly his foreign policy and his treatment of the Constitution... much more so than we saw those on the right do of Bush. In fact, we're seeing a third movement sort of split down the middle forming and separating themselves from partisan politics (a la OWS movement, Ron Paul supporters, et al). Either this means that those on the left are much smarter and more honest than those on the right, or Obama is just that much worse.

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      Quote Originally posted by Nathan Poe View Post
      I mean really -- if Obama was as horrible as the Right makes him out to be, there'd be plenty of real issues to complain about.
      might you be talking about all the wars that we are actively *still*/started engaging in?
      might you be talking about all the people who are not on health care?
      might you be talking about all the people who are not working?
      might you be talking about all the soldiers dying under obama's watch while hes on vacation/playing basket ball?
      might you be talking about the crime rate across the united states?
      might you be talking about the 'atrocities' being committed in Guantanamo Bay?
      might you be talking about how obama and his VP never seem to say the same things?
      might you be talking about obama's promotion of 'shovel ready jobs' and crossed off the *planning* of a massive pipeline?
      might you be talking about who the president associates with and that he continually insults our allies?
      might you be talking about how this president has gone on more vacations than any other president to date during his presidency?
      might you be talking about his general disrespect to the supreme court?

      should i keep going?
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      i find it amazing that a person who requests another to demonstrate that they are not terrorists by some small action like making the claim they are not terrorists, becomes terrorized himself, and not by the terrorists or even the proposed terrorists; but by those who seek tolerance and understanding. i believe that fits the definition of ironic doesn't it?

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      Quote Originally posted by seanD View Post
      Thing is that many on the left are making Obama out to be about as bad as the right is making him out to be, particularly his foreign policy and his treatment of the Constitution... much more so than we saw those on the right do of Bush.
      I think what we're seeing is a lot of disappointment coming from many former Obama supporters -- they expected him to accomplish a lot more than he has.

      In fact, we're seeing a third movement sort of split down the middle forming and separating themselves from partisan politics (a la OWS movement, Ron Paul supporters, et al). Either this means that those on the left are much smarter and more honest than those on the right, or Obama is just that much worse.
      I noticed that among those separating themselves from partisan politics, you omitted the Tea Party. For good reason, I suspect.

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      Quote Originally posted by odis View Post
      might you be talking about all the wars that we are actively *still*/started engaging in?
      might you be talking about all the people who are not on health care?
      might you be talking about all the people who are not working?
      might you be talking about all the soldiers dying under obama's watch while hes on vacation/playing basket ball?
      might you be talking about the crime rate across the united states?
      might you be talking about the 'atrocities' being committed in Guantanamo Bay?
      In all fairness, did Obama cause these issues?

      might you be talking about how obama and his VP never seem to say the same things?
      No, I might be talking about something which actually matters.

      might you be talking about obama's promotion of 'shovel ready jobs' and crossed off the *planning* of a massive pipeline?
      If you're referring to Keystone, that's still on the table, last I checked.

      might you be talking about who the president associates with and that he continually insults our allies?
      Which allies might those be? We have so few these days.

      might you be talking about how this president has gone on more vacations than any other president to date during his presidency?
      No, I'm talking about something honest and accurate.

      After 31 months in office, Obama has taken a total of 61 vacation days. At similar points in their presidencies, Bush had taken 180, Reagan 112, and Clinton set the workaholic's record with only 28.

      http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2765250/posts

      http://www.sodahead.com/united-state...stion-2355535/
      Of course, if you're referring to just his first year in office, here's a site for you:

      http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/pre...vacation-days/

      Nice try, though.

      Might you be talking about his general disrespect to the supreme court?
      Again, I'm talking about actual issues. Of course, if you care about the Supreme Court, the Right might revoke your membership card:

      http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec...udges-20111217

      should i keep going?
      Please do -- you're digging quite the hole for yourself.
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