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      Forty Days...for Choice?

      Yep. Check out their list of things to pray for:

      linky to PDF

      And who are the charming folks behind this?

      http://www.faithaloud.org/faith/index.php

      What an...interesting take on prayer, morality and ethics, and things like that. They also have some signs for sale for folks who 'defend' clinics from pro-life sidewalk folks.

      Seems like they're based out of St. Louis--I wonder if they would be up for a little debate some time that I'm the neighborhood?

      So aside from the 'yuck' factor, their list of things to pray for(!), I'm thinking that list would be easy to turn around and use against them.
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      Re: Forty Days...for Choice?

      In its defense, there are a number of things listed that aren't bad things to pray for, but overall it feels like praying for their own agenda rather than seeking God's agenda. For instance, it's not a matter of whether they should feel shame for doing something shameful, but to comfort them so that they don't feel shame. I've heard people pray, "Please bless this junk food to my body's use" and it makes me want to facepalm.
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      Quote Originally posted by Soyeong View Post
      In its defense, there are a number of things listed that aren't bad things to pray for, but overall it feels like praying for their own agenda rather than seeking God's agenda. For instance, it's not a matter of whether they should feel shame for doing something shameful, but to comfort them so that they don't feel shame. I've heard people pray, "Please bless this junk food to my body's use" and it makes me want to facepalm.
      Yep--and those are things that pro-lifers can really jump on and say "I agree wholeheartedly with X, Y, and Z...but here's why they are in the moral province of the pro-life position instead of those advocating abortion." In fact I may pass this along to our local 40 Days for Life folks so that they can know about it--because if this is the message that we might be faced with, we will be ready to immediately respond.
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      Re: Forty Days...for Choice?

      Wow, I just puked in my mouth.
      Nochyu mokraya ptitsa nikogda ne letaet.
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      "That no one should be forced into pregnancy, parenthood, or narrowly defined parenting roles."

      Prolonged Trauma Damages the Parts of the Brain that Handle Language!

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      PATER aeterne, offero tibi Corpus et Sanguinem, animam et divinitatem dilectissimi Filii Tui, Domini nostri, Iesu Christi, in propitiatione pro peccatis nostris et totius mundi. PRO DOLOROSA Eius passione, miserere nobis et totius mundi.

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      Re: Forty Days...for Choice?

      That is such a mockery of what Christianity stands for. It takes good principles and spoils them beyond recollection. To quote C.S Lewis on this "Badness is just spoiled goodness" and that is what this is, spoiled goodness
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      It's all about Diet God. All the great taste with none of the calories
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      Quote Originally posted by Hamster View Post
      It's all about Diet God. All the great taste with none of the calories
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      Re: Forty Days...for Choice?

      Seems that they are shocked, shocked that pro-lifers may have an issue with their stance. They took to Twitter to announce a new funding campaign that every time they are "attacked" by pro-life groups or people, that people can pledge to donate money to their fund so they can pay for abortions.

      I asked them (politely) how they defined an attack, and where they drew the line between disagreement and attack. No response...yet.
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      Re: Forty Days...for Choice?

      WE BELIEVE:

      That the love of God induces strength, not shame.
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      Do you know the reach of their thought? Or do you think, perhaps, that their thought is upon you, and that they may shield you from afar?'

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      Oh they responded:

      @rayado2011 when there are insults involved, it's an attack

      Let the mayhem begin
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      Re: Forty Days...for Choice?

      Prayer #38--for a 'cloud of peace' to descend on abortion clinics--makes me think they've never actually been to an abortion clinic. The only other time I've felt so incredibly freaked out as I was standing in front of our local abortion clinic for 40 Days for Life was when I stood in the gas chambers at Dachau. They are anything but peaceful places and no amount of prayer is going to fix that.
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      Quote Originally posted by Rayado View Post
      Prayer #38--for a 'cloud of peace' to descend on abortion clinics--makes me think they've never actually been to an abortion clinic. The only other time I've felt so incredibly freaked out as I was standing in front of our local abortion clinic for 40 Days for Life was when I stood in the gas chambers at Dachau. They are anything but peaceful places and no amount of prayer is going to fix that.
      First time I ever saw an abortion clinic I stood outside and stared, I got this feeling of cold, dark, damp, and I was shivering and all I could see was a blackness I'll never be able to explain
      PATER aeterne, offero tibi Corpus et Sanguinem, animam et divinitatem dilectissimi Filii Tui, Domini nostri, Iesu Christi, in propitiatione pro peccatis nostris et totius mundi. PRO DOLOROSA Eius passione, miserere nobis et totius mundi.

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