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  • Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
    He would claim it's because we're boorish and ignorant. Which is ironic because he bases his view of the US on the reporting of news outlets that are openly biased against the US and its best interests. He wants a president who bows and grovels before foreign leaders and not one who proudly stands out from the crowd.
    which explains why he likes Trudeau so much

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    • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      This is so wrong and so dumb. It constantly amazes me how many Americans here are this delusional about the US's role in global affairs.
      No it isn't. It's dead-on accurate. You'd be speaking Japanese and bowing to the Emperor were it not for US intervention in the Pacific.
      That's what
      - She

      Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
      - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

      I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
      - Stephen R. Donaldson

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      • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
        No it isn't. It's dead-on accurate. You'd be speaking Japanese and bowing to the Emperor were it not for US intervention in the Pacific.
        Why would I care what language I grew up speaking? It makes no difference to me.

        You pretend that your country's participation in a global war, was some sort of single-handed victory, as opposed to you being merely one among many participants. Keep resting on those fake laurels man.

        Originally posted by Mountain Man View Post
        Source: The American Mirror

        As leaders were gathering for a photo op, most were sporting a G20 pin on their lapel.

        Not Trump. He was wearing an American flag.

        © Copyright Original Source

        I find it hilarious how much conservatives feel they have to fake their patriotism with outward displays, to make up for their actual anti-patriotism of policies of taking healthcare away from veterans and destroying American government and jobs and idolizing traitors to the US (the Confederacy, Russian-collusion etc). Do you think if you outwardly pretend hard enough to be nationalistic and patriotic on the outside that that will actually make up for the inside?

        Originally posted by Sparko View Post
        why are you so obsessed by it?
        It's truly fascinating as a psychological and political phenomena. I've never seen in the entire world such a large group of delusional people before as US conservatives, so from an intellectual standpoint of understanding the phenomena it's really intriguing. And given they wield substantial power (i.e. currently being in control of the government of the country with the largest military force, and one of the largest contributors to climate change) the phenomena cannot be ignored on the world political stage.

        A fascinating Pew poll out today shows the extent of the anti-intellectualism running rampant in conservative America. Higher education institutions are seen as bad, and it's barely possible for their view of the media to get any more negative. Churches good, universities bad... says it all really.



        And it's not like I am uniquely obsessed by it as if I were an unusual person for being a New Zealander who is strange for having their mouth drop open at US political antics. My best friend, my brother, my father, and my office mates all comment to me weekly about the craziness of US politics because they follow it too. New Zealanders in general are aware of what's going on in the US about a million times more than Americans in general are aware of what's going on in NZ. This is for a variety of reasons including, we're a small nation so we tend to pay a lot of attention to international news because there isn't much local news, we speak English so that attention gets paid primarily to English-speaking nations, it used to get paid to the UK but when they entered the European Common Market several decades back that attention drifted away from the UK and more towards Australia and the US, and as the US took a prominently negative role in world affairs with President Bush jokes / 9/11 / Afghanistan / Iraq / torture / global financial crisis then with the prominently positive role of electing a Black President / having a charismatic leader and great public speaker / trying to negotiate a massive trade treaty with us (TTPA) and then once again the prominent negative role of Trump's behavior and craziness / Paris treaty withdrawal, the attention of New Zealanders and of the NZ media has really focused strongly on the US.

        Also, I think another reason is that the English-speaking parts of the internet are disproportionately American (because the US has more population than Canada, Australia, UK, NZ, and Ireland combined) so whenever NZers go to any international website or news site (e.g. Reddit, CNN, BBC or whatever) the politics that most people there are talking about is US politics, so any general online browsing gives the average NZer a dose of US politics whether they want it or not. Also 90%+ of the TV programs and movies that people watch here are made in the US, so everyone here has a basic background knowledge of US geography and culture and politics as a result of that.

        Because I am interested in politics to an unusual degree, I do things like watch the UK election results coming in on BBC for several hours, and watch UK and Danish political comedies & dramas like Yes Minister and Borgen, and have been a member of a political party here (fairly uncommon here - ~1% of population). But being aware of and interested in US politics is not unusual in NZ.
        Last edited by Starlight; 07-10-2017, 08:38 PM.
        "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
        "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
        "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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        • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Why would I care what language I grew up speaking? It makes no difference to me.
          Because you live in a basically free country thanks in large part to the US intervention in the Pacific in WW2.

          You pretend that your country's participation in a global war, was some sort of single-handed victory, as opposed to you being merely one among many participants.
          Your utter ignorance is positively adorable. That you think that other nations had more than a minor impact on the US fleet's assault through the Pacific islands makes me laugh out loud. It's positively hilarious!

          Keep resting on those fake laurels man.
          Keep wallowing in your insignificance and ignorance.
          That's what
          - She

          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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          • Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
            I find it hilarious how much conservatives feel they have to fake their patriotism with outward displays, to make up for their actual anti-patriotism of policies of taking healthcare away from veterans and destroying American government and jobs and idolizing traitors to the US (the Confederacy, Russian-collusion etc). Do you think if you outwardly pretend hard enough to be nationalistic and patriotic on the outside that that will actually make up for the inside?
            That is a completely fair, accurate, informed, and unbiased analysis of US policy. It's shows how astute and observant you really--







            Sorry, I couldn't keep a straight face any longer. Although I do give you points for being a fan of YES, MINISTER. Who knew we actually had something in common? But I have to wonder if you realize it's satire.
            Last edited by Mountain Man; 07-10-2017, 09:50 PM.
            Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
            But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
            Than a fool in the eyes of God


            From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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            • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              A fascinating Pew poll out today shows the extent of the anti-intellectualism running rampant in conservative America. Higher education institutions are seen as bad, and it's barely possible for their view of the media to get any more negative. Churches good, universities bad... says it all really.
              I'd agree this is problematic... if not for the fact that both the media and higher education institutions are pretty darn screwed up. Having a cynical view of them isn't a sign of anti-intellectualism, but of realism.

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              • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                Because you live in a basically free country thanks in large part to the US intervention in the Pacific in WW2.



                Your utter ignorance is positively adorable. That you think that other nations had more than a minor impact on the US fleet's assault through the Pacific islands makes me laugh out loud. It's positively hilarious!



                Keep wallowing in your insignificance and ignorance.
                I think it's funny how he flat ignores how the tide of war shifted in the allies favor only after the US joined the war. It's doubtful the British Empire or the USSR could have won without US intervention. Than again, this is the same laughing stock that seriously argued that South Korea would have been better off if the North had conquered them.
                "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                • Originally posted by Terraceth View Post
                  I'd agree this is problematic... if not for the fact that both the media and higher education institutions are pretty darn screwed up. Having a cynical view of them isn't a sign of anti-intellectualism, but of realism.
                  Yep. I love the idea of learning. I despise how schools have become centers of left propaganda where any disagreement is labeled as hate speech. I also despise how these same schools have hyperinflated the cost of education, so they could make huge piles of cash and lock millions of people in virtually debt slavery, while acting as though everyone must lock themselves into that same cycle to 'have the good life.'
                  Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 07-11-2017, 12:10 AM.
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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