Thread: The Physical Appearance of Jesus
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April 13th 2012, 04:56 PM #1
The Physical Appearance of Jesus
Many people I have met seem to believe that Jesus was beautiful in appearance and could not have been ugly. However, from what I can find both the Bible and the Early Church imply that Jesus was unattractive.
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. (Isaiah 53:2)
"Thus spoke even they who despised His outward form. His body did not reach even to human beauty, to say nothing of heavenly glory. Had the prophets given us no information whatever concerning His ignoble appearance, His very sufferings and the very contumely He endured bespeak it all. The sufferings attested His human flesh, the contumely proved its abject condition. Would any man have dared to touch even with his little finger, the body of Christ, if it had been of an unusual nature; or to smear His face with spitting, if it had not invited it (by its abjectness)?" (Tertullian, On the Flesh of Christ 9).
“ And that the Lord Himself was uncomely in aspect, the Spirit testifies by Esaias: ‘And we saw Him, and He had no form nor comeliness but His form was mean, inferior to men’”(Clement of Alexandria, The Instructor 3.1).
I know many people will say "His appearance doesn't matter" but I believe that by choosing an unattractive form, Jesus showed extreme humility and that He was willing to be regarded as a nobody.
Does anyone agree or disagree?
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April 15th 2012, 11:44 AM #2
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Male - ChristianRe: The Physical Appearance of Jesus
Just about everything else about Jesus life and ministry was, at least superficially, dishonorable. He was the equivalent of a redneck Jew born to a low-born father whose brothers didn't even believe He was divine (for a time, anyway), what following He did gather shrunk as time went on, and ultimately even His closest followers deserted Him, leaving only the socially irrelevant woman, at the time of His crucifixion, the most shameful of shameful deaths. If Jesus was ugly, I wouldn't find it hard to believe. God can be very ironic when He wants to be.
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'I know not,' said Húrin. 'Yet so it might be, if they willed. For the Elder King shall not be dethroned while Arda endures.'
The Words of Húrin and Morgoth, "The Children of Húrin" by J.R.R. Tolkien
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Male - ChristianRe: The Physical Appearance of Jesus
I don't necessarily doubt this, but can you quote a source for me? It'd be nice to have on hand. I vaguely remember David DeSilva saying beautiful people were considered graced by the gods.In an honour-shame society (as today also) ugliness detracts from honour and esteem,
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Then Morgoth turned upon Húrin, and he said: 'Fool, little among Men, and they are the least of all that speak! Have you seen the Valar, or measured the power of Manwë and Varda?
Do you know the reach of their thought? Or do you think, perhaps, that their thought is upon you, and that they may shield you from afar?'
'I know not,' said Húrin. 'Yet so it might be, if they willed. For the Elder King shall not be dethroned while Arda endures.'
The Words of Húrin and Morgoth, "The Children of Húrin" by J.R.R. Tolkien
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May 7th 2012, 11:50 PM #5
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IMO Isaiah is talking about Jesus' appearance at His crucifixion. People did attempt to seize Him to make Him king, so I doubt He was exceptionally unattractive. I also think that, if His appearance was really hideous, the allegation would have been preserved in libelous Jewish tales post-Resurrection. My guess is that His physical appearance would not have stood out as unusual for His culture.
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Male - ChristianRe: The Physical Appearance of Jesus
I just hate those "images" of Jesus that make him look sissified.
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May 8th 2012, 07:05 AM #7
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You have caught me out in an assumption: that physical appearance is such an important part of honour-shame today -- think youth and "cool" -- that it must always have been so. Having spent a little time looking online for evidence, I have not found anything explicit to support my claim -- just a few modern assertions unsupported by anything I can check.
Physiognomy does seem to have been used in ancient times to judge character, hence honour, but not necessarily beauty or comliness.
David
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Male - ChristianRe: The Physical Appearance of Jesus
As long as he is portrayed with blue eyes and blond hair, I'm good! OH yeah, and speaks King James in a British Accent!
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May 8th 2012, 01:24 PM #9
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May 13th 2012, 10:12 PM #10
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Isaiah said that he "grew up" and that he "had no beauty or majesty". It seems, at least to me, that Isaiah is talking about Jesus' pre crucifixion appearance. I agree that Jesus was not necessarily on the level of Quasimodo , but the text does implies that He didn't look like the Messiah the people would have expected. Interestingly, Celsus apparently thought it was a tenable argument against Christianity when he said, "Since a divine Spirit inhabited the body (of Jesus), it must certainly have been different from that of other beings, in respect of grandeur, or beauty, or strength, or voice, or impressiveness, or persuasiveness. For it is impossible that He, to whom was imparted some divine quality beyond other beings, should not differ from others; whereas this person did not differ in any respect from another, but was, as they report, little, and ill-favoured, and ignoble." Even more intriguing, Celsus says "as they report" which seems to imply that others used this as an argument.
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May 13th 2012, 10:24 PM #11
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Not having beauty isn't really the same as being so hideously ugly that it's remarkable, it seems like it just means "plain" or unattractive
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May 13th 2012, 10:28 PM #12
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Last edited by One Bad Pig; May 13th 2012 at 10:48 PM.
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May 13th 2012, 10:34 PM #13
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Personally, when I'm reading the Gospels and imagining the events visually in my head, I picture Jesus looking like this
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yeshua5.pngאָמַר לוֹ יֵשׁוּעַ: אֲנִי הַדֶּרֶךְ וְהָאֱמֶת וְהַחַיִּים. אֵין אִישׁ בָּא אֶל הָאָב אֶלָּא דַּרְכִּי
✡ "Yeshua said, 'I AM the Way -- and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except through me.'" ✡ - Yochanan 14:6
כֻּלָּ֨נוּ֙ כַּצֹּ֣אן תָּעִ֔ינוּ אִ֥ישׁ לְדַרְכֹּ֖ו פָּנִ֑ינוּ וַֽיהוָה֙ הִפְגִּ֣יעַ בֹּ֔ו אֵ֖ת עֲוֹ֥ן כֻּלָּֽנוּ׃
✡ "We all, like sheep, went astray; we turned, each one, to his own way; yet ADONAI laid on him the guilt of all of us.'' ✡ - Yesha'yahu 53:6
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May 16th 2012, 08:27 AM #14
Re: The Physical Appearance of Jesus
Most Christians would deny they did those things. Affirming that their Savior was unattractive seems to imply that they honestly did believe Isaiah 53:2 was implying that. Nonetheless, I agree that all Isaiah 53:2 shows was that Jesus was "unattractive" it does not give us an head to toe description or say how "unattractive" He was.
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Male - ChristianRe: The Physical Appearance of Jesus
In my opinion, part of the point was that it doesn't matter what the outside looks like. A reinforcement of the principle that "man looks on the outside, God looks at the heart". Jesus wasn't here just to save the "pretty and the popular", but the sinner and the down-and-outer.
It wasn't what he LOOKED LIKE that was important, but who He was inside.
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