So this is how Canada deals with terrorists

[mossrose]

We pay them. Lots of money. Out of the taxpayers pockets.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/khad...ment-1.4189146

This taxpayer is beyond disgusted.

[Roy]

Is he a terrorist?

Is he instead a minor who was led astray by his father?
Is he guilty of the act he was convicted of, or did he confess under duress?
Was the act itself an act of terrorism, or armed resistance to an invading force?

[seer]

Was the act itself an act of terrorism, or armed resistance to an invading force?

Afghanistan wasn't even his country, and yes we invaded the country where al-Qaeda trained the 911 terrorists.

[Roy]

Afghanistan wasn't even his country, and yes we invaded the country where al-Qaeda trained the 911 terrorists.

He lived there. He may not have been born there, but apparently he'd lived there for years.

[mossrose]

He lived there. He may not have been born there, but apparently he'd lived there for years.

He did what he was convicted of. He may have been misled by adults, but he still committed the act of murder, for which there should be consequences. He may have been treated badly in Gitmo, but why should Canadians have to apologize and compensate him with millions of dollars?

Perhaps the Americans who mistreated him should pay. Or the Afghanistans should foot the bill.

I don't see why I have to pay one non-existent-anymore penny!

[seer]

He lived there. He may not have been born there, but apparently he'd lived there for years.

He was a Canadian citizen. And at an al-Qaeda training camp where the firefight took place.

[rogue06]

He lived there. He may not have been born there, but apparently he'd lived there for years.

His family moved to Pakistan, then Afghanistan, back to Canada, back to Afghanistan and then he and his mother returned to Pakistan. Then he returned to Afghanistan as a translator for Arabs fighting there and received weapons training and became a terrorist.

[Terraceth]

according to unnamed sources who spoke to The Associated Press, the Toronto Star and the Globe and Mail.

Haven't we learned by now to be instantly skeptical of any report that relies entirely on "unnamed" or anonymous sources for its claims?

[mossrose]

Haven't we learned by now to be instantly skeptical of any report that relies entirely on "unnamed" or anonymous sources for its claims?

You forget, this is Canada we're talking about. Little Justin says,

"There is a judicial process underway that has been underway for a number of years now, and we are anticipating, like I think a number of people are, that that judicial process is coming to its conclusion,"

If he says it, it's a done deal, for sure. Especially since it involves MY money!

[Starlight]

Was the act itself an act of terrorism, or armed resistance to an invading force?

While I'm pleased at the general idea of prosecuting soldiers for murder when they kill, it appears this standard is being applied only to people who kill US soldiers and not to US soldiers who kill people.

[mossrose]

Tell us, Starlight, do you think it's right for Canadians to pay this man (or any terrorist) millions of dollars for treatment he received in an American prison, after he murdered an American soldier?

I don't want to hear about how sad you feel that American soldiers aren't being prosecuted. That will be considered off topic in this thread, and if you continue with that line of discussion you will be asked to leave.

[rogue06]

While I'm pleased at the general idea of prosecuting soldiers for murder when they kill, it appears this standard is being applied only to people who kill US soldiers and not to US soldiers who kill people.

He was what the law defines as an unlawful combatant and hardly a soldier not belonging to any recognized army, not wearing a distinct uniform and U.S. soldiers are routinely tried by military courts if there is solid evidence of wrong-doing.


ETA: Just read mossy's post

[Starlight]

Tell us, Starlight, do you think it's right for Canadians to pay this man (or any terrorist) millions of dollars for treatment he received in an American prison, after he murdered an American soldier?

1. He doesn't appear to be a terrorist, that's just you making stuff up.
2. He doesn't appear to have murdered anyone by any normal definition of murder, that's just you making stuff up. Killing a soldier in military combat is not generally counted as 'murder'. I think it should be, but you have said that is off-topic, so please don't maintain your double-standard of calling this 'murder'.
3. He was a Canadian citizen held in the US torture-facility at Guantanamo, and was treated in unacceptable ways, and the Canadian government did nothing about it. Of course they should compensate him for that.
4. Should he be able to sue the US government for mistreatment if he was indeed mistreated? Of course. However, in practice that's not going to work because the US has made it clear its not interested in justice and has withdrawn itself from participation in the International Criminal Court, meaning that his chances of getting any sort of reparations from the US are approximately zero. And the US's choice of Guantanamo was deliberate because it is outside US borders and thus exempt from many normal facets of US law, so they can mistreat people in ways not legally allowed within US borders and avoid legal blow-back for it. It's reasonable therefore that Canada compensates their own citizen for reparations he should be receiving from the US in US courts for mistreatment, and that Canada itself seeks reparations from the US if it deems it appropriate or politically expedient.

[mossrose]

1. He doesn't appear to be a terrorist, that's just you making stuff up.
2. He doesn't appear to have murdered anyone by any normal definition of murder, that's just you making stuff up......blah, blah, blah

So you're calling me a liar.

[Darth Executor]

Canada was fighting alongside the US in Afghanistan, and the US had a legitimate reason for invading Afghanistan. He's worse than a murderer, he's a traitor who took up arms against "his" own country. He should've either been executed or stripped of citizienship and permanently expelled.