One or three and a human too?

[headheart]

To what end? The issue of the Bible's theological consistency has been discussed to death in this forum and every other apologetic forum that allows unbelievers to state their cases. Have you not seen any of those discussions?

I've read and participated in some discussions about this, but that was then and this is now, so don't be shy. Make my day!

You say so. I haven't heard it from him.

Mmmm.

A cute story. Is there supposed to be a lesson there for me? You left something out, though. Before I can learn anything useful from your story, I need to know: Why did the first man buy the gold mine in the first place? What made him think there was any gold there for anyone to find?

I can't remember.

Peace,
Eric

[Doug Shaver]

I meant that the [biblical] authors' statements about God were incoherent, taken as a whole.

Oh, okay. Would you be willing to unpack that idea a little more?

To what end? The issue of the Bible's theological consistency has been discussed to death in this forum and every other apologetic forum that allows unbelievers to state their cases. Have you not seen any of those discussions?

I've read and participated in some discussions about this, but that was then and this is now, so don't be shy. Make my day!

I'm not being shy. I'm refusing to waste my time. I don't like ruining anybody's day, but if I must, it won't be mine.

Jesus has a good answer to this and it involves asking, seeking and knocking.

You say so. I haven't heard it from him.

Mmmm.

You think I'm mistaken? Prove it. That would make my day.

What made him think there was any gold there for anyone to find?

I can't remember.

Perhaps it didn't seem relevant to you at the time. That happens a lot when people look for anecdotes to reinforce what they already believe. Questions that need to be asked don't get asked (one of them being: Did this really happen?).

[headheart]

I'm not being shy. I'm refusing to waste my time. I don't like ruining anybody's day, but if I must, it won't be mine.

Bah-humbug. (refer: Post 59 and )

You think I'm mistaken? Prove it. That would make my day.

That is something only you can prove for yourself. (refer: Post 59 and )

Perhaps it didn't seem relevant to you at the time. That happens a lot when people look for anecdotes to reinforce what they already believe. Questions that need to be asked don't get asked (one of them being: Did this really happen?).

If you put in the effort you'll be surprised that you might have better results. (refer: Post 59 and )

Goodbye,
Eric.

[headheart]

'....I did what other believers told me to do, to the best of my ability. None of it worked. ....'

Everyone has their own story and I've read your internet story before.

I'm going to leave you with these parting words by Rev. Dr. John R. W. Stott (27.04.1921 - 27.07.2011) from a little book I acquired some years ago while scouring the shelves of a tiny second hand bookshop called 'The Bookworm' in Fish Hoek, South Africa:

'The Christian life is a life of prayer, in that it is a life of communion with God through Christ; and the more disciplined the Christian is in his set times of quiet, the more easy he will find it to "pray without ceasing" (1 Thess. 5:17), and to abide in Christ, enjoying His presence throughout every minute of each day.'

From: "Your Confirmation" by The Reverand J.R.W. Stott > Bible Reading and Prayer pg. 94.

Peace,
Eric.

[Doug Shaver]

I'm going to leave you with these parting words . . . .

Yeah, I get it. You've told me what I needed to be told, and I'd darn well better take your word for all of it, because if don't, God will someday make me wish I had.

[headheart]

Yeah, I get it. You've told me what I needed to be told, and I'd darn well better take your word for all of it, because if don't, God will someday make me wish I had.

No. I'm just a beggar trying to show another beggar where I found bread, what is commonly known among Christians as "the presence of Christ"

"He was the Word that spake it; He took the bread and brake it; And what that Word did make it; I do believe and take it" (Divine Poems. On the Sacrament) by John Donne (1572–1631)

"For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes."

1 Corinthians 11:23-26

Peace,
Eric.

[Doug Shaver]

I'm just a beggar trying to show another beggar where I found bread, what is commonly known among Christians as "the presence of Christ"

You are pointing to a box that looks empty to me and saying, "I found bread in that box and there is plenty left for you." When I say, "I don't see any bread there," you reply, "You need to look harder. I swear to you, there is bread in that box."

[headheart]

You are pointing to a box that looks empty to me and saying, "I found bread in that box and there is plenty left for you." When I say, "I don't see any bread there," you reply, "You need to look harder. I swear to you, there is bread in that box."

Nope. The bread is a metaphor for something which does not fit into any box.

Peace,
Eric

[DLAbaoaqu]

Insane televangelist Hinn thinks there are nine persons in the trinity.

[headheart]

.... I'd darn well better take your word for all of it, because if don't, God will someday make me wish I had.

The reason that I used the word 'beggar' was to help you understand that I've no desire to threaten you the way that you seem to think I am. I only shared my thoughts with you in the same way that two old blokes sitting on a park bench might share a few words and then as they were about to part the one bloke gives his very best thoughts thinking he may never see the other old bloke again. (post 59) But the other bloke is really grumpy and does not read the heartfelt intentions of the other and starts to argue. In a last bid to say adieu the old bloke tries to find even deeper words to soothe the other old bloke ( Post 64 ) but to no avail he just keeps on arguing in a way that reminds him of another old bloke who once wrestled with an angel. But that's another story.

Scotland awaits.


Runrig - Loch Lomond (Year of The Flood DVD)

"So you take the high road and I'll take the low road
And I'll be in Scotland before you
Where me and my true love will never meet again
On the bonnie bonnie banks of Loch Lomond"


Fare the well.

Eric

[Tanakh Keeper]

The reason that I used the word 'beggar' was to help you understand that I've no desire to threaten you the way that you seem to think I am. I only shared my thoughts with you in the same way that two old blokes sitting on a park bench might share a few words and then as they were about to part the one bloke gives his very best thoughts thinking he may never see the other old bloke again. But the other bloke is really grumpy and does not read the heartfelt intentions of the other and starts to argue. In a last bid to say adieu the old bloke tries to find even deeper words to soothe the other old bloke but to no avail he just keeps on arguing in a way that reminds him of another old bloke who once wrestled with an angel.

This is a part of Christianity that I don't get, this forcing of beliefs onto another. You start off by saying goodbye, but the other one doesn't want to hear it. Instead of just going your separate ways, you get more insistent that he must not only listen to you, but agree with you.

To me, it makes your beliefs sound weak. Instead of just going on, yall have a deep need to have everyone agree with you. Sort of like, you don't really believe it yourself, unless no one believes differently.

[pancreasman]

This is a part of Christianity that I don't get, this forcing of beliefs onto another. You start off by saying goodbye, but the other one doesn't want to hear it. Instead of just going your separate ways, you get more insistent that he must not only listen to you, but agree with you.

To me, it makes your beliefs sound weak. Instead of just going on, yall have a deep need to have everyone agree with you. Sort of like, you don't really believe it yourself, unless no one believes differently.

I think there's truth to this. When faced with any kind of critique Eric is very quick to say that if we just studied more, prayed harder and were generally more intelligent then we'd see things like him.

[headheart]

This is a part of Christianity that I don't get, this forcing of beliefs onto another. You start off by saying goodbye, but the other one doesn't want to hear it. Instead of just going your separate ways, you get more insistent that he must not only listen to you, but agree with you.

To me, it makes your beliefs sound weak. Instead of just going on, yall have a deep need to have everyone agree with you. Sort of like, you don't really believe it yourself, unless no one believes differently.

Keep piling it on TK, there's room enough for another old grumbler at the table. I never did get to hear the real reason why you joined this forum, but now you motives are shining out loud as a trumpet blast.

'The mirror is free' Graham Nash.

Peace,
Eric

[Tanakh Keeper]

Huh? I told you already. Are you now accusing me of lying?

[Catholicity]

This is a part of Christianity that I don't get, this forcing of beliefs onto another.

you know what TK? Thats a part of some Aspects of Christianity I don't get either. If someone comes and asks me about what I believe I'll share it. Otherwise I sort of keep it to myself unless its an issue I just feel strongly about (pro life being one for example)