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      Quote Originally posted by seer View Post
      What country are you in? As far as I can see the only country I know of that is doing fairly well is Germany, well maybe Norway too.
      The little guy below the US though in terms of money per capita you're a bit ahead of us. We're doing as good or better than Germany on that front (here).
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      Quote Originally posted by seer View Post
      Yeah, be more like Europe so we can be slaves to the state.
      I'm not sure I've ever seen a post on tweb that has pissed me off more. I mean, this was ridiculous Seer.
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      Re: Is This Where Godless Philosophy Natural Leads?

      Quote Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
      Have fun backpeddling.
      It's backpedalling.

      /pedantic


      Quote Originally posted by nightbringer View Post
      I'm not sure I've ever seen a post on tweb that has pissed me off more. I mean, this was ridiculous Seer.
      As he is self-described as emotional and reactionary, I think you can chalk up this comment to more of the same. Just like the 'godless left'.
      I am more or less around.

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      Re: Is This Where Godless Philosophy Natural Leads?

      Quote Originally posted by ZackMartin View Post
      So, did the US run up its $15.6 trillion national debt through social security? Or through reckless military spending? How many trillions of dollars did the Iraq War cost? Finding Saddam's non-existent weapons of mass destruction? Overthrowing a dictator - yet the US is happy to support far worse regimes than Saddam's ever was - Saddam was evil, no doubt, but at least he let women drive cars, unlike Uncle Sam's best buddies the Saudi Arabians - and is the new mob whose replaced him going to be better? You can't create a democratic culture through military intervention, no matter how many billions you spend. (In the case of Afghanistan, given the Taliban's support for Osama bin Laden, an attack was justified in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, but the US should have left years ago.)

      Europe has socialism, America has militarism. I'd rather socialism to militarism
      Yeah, and the reason Russia never rolled over the rest of Europe was because of America's military spending! We protected them so they did not have to protect themselves, and have their social programs. And the vast majority of unfunded debt in this nation is due to social programs. And if we really were an Empire Zack we would have never given Europe or Japan back. And are you from Australia? Just remember if it wasn't for us you would be speaking Japanese today. Ungrateful...
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      Quote Originally posted by nightbringer View Post
      I'm not sure I've ever seen a post on tweb that has pissed me off more. I mean, this was ridiculous Seer.
      I hate socialism nightbringer, I think next to full-blooded Communism, it is the most destructive political theory ever invented.
      "And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare

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      Quote Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
      The little guy below the US though in terms of money per capita you're a bit ahead of us. We're doing as good or better than Germany on that front (here).
      So you are from Denmak? I have been there - just a lovely little country. I remember strolling through the Tivoli Gardens on a cool autumn night - warm memories...
      "And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare

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      Re: Is This Where Godless Philosophy Natural Leads?

      Quote Originally posted by seer View Post
      I hate socialism nightbringer, I think next to full-blooded Communism, it is the most destructive political theory ever invented.
      I note your understanding of political and economic theory is just as broad and well grounded as your deep understanding of philosophy.

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      Quote Originally posted by seer View Post
      Yeah, and the reason Russia never rolled over the rest of Europe was because of America's military spending! We protected them so they did not have to protect themselves, and have their social programs. And the vast majority of unfunded debt in this nation is due to social programs. And if we really were an Empire Zack we would have never given Europe or Japan back. And are you from Australia? Just remember if it wasn't for us you would be speaking Japanese today. Ungrateful...


      You're aware that people like you is the reason why many Europeans have this stereotype of Americans as puffed up and ignorant buffoons, right?

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      You're aware that people like you is the reason why many Europeans have this stereotype of Americans as puffed up and ignorant buffoons, right?
      Really? What exactly did I say that was incorrect? And BTW - this was in RESPONSE to Zack who FIRST slammed the US.
      "And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare

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      Quote Originally posted by pancreasman View Post
      I note your understanding of political and economic theory is just as broad and well grounded as your deep understanding of philosophy.
      Really - go for it... Tell me how the majority of socialistice Europe is not failing. Tell men how socialism doesn't make people more dependent on the central government, thereby giving nearly absolute control over their lives.
      "And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare

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      Quote Originally posted by seer View Post
      Really? What exactly did I say that was incorrect? And BTW - this was in RESPONSE to Zack who FIRST slammed the US.
      It's not so much you having your facts wrong as it is your "We Americans are the saviours of the world"-attidute that I find annoying.

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      Quote Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
      It's not so much you having your facts wrong as it is your "We Americans are the saviours of the world"-attidute that I find annoying.
      Except it is pretty much true. So Zack slams us - but I somehow don't have the right to present the other side?
      "And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare

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      Quote Originally posted by seer View Post
      Except it is pretty much true. So Zack slams us - but I somehow don't have the right to present the other side?
      As I said, it's your attitude that I have a problem with, not your facts.

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      Quote Originally posted by Chrawnus View Post
      As I said, it's your attitude that I have a problem with, not your facts.
      But Zack did not have an attitude?
      "And all our yesterdays have lighted fools, the way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more: it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” Shakespeare

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      Re: Is This Where Godless Philosophy Natural Leads?

      Quote Originally posted by seer View Post
      But Zack did not have an attitude?
      Yes, but unlike you he didn't have this unpleasant "We Americans are so great and praiseworthy, and you should totally grovel in the dirt and kiss our feet" attitude that you're exuding.

      America might have helped Europe, and the rest of the world in the past, and that's something we might have a reason to be grateful for, but if Americans in general would have the attitude you have I'd actually reject help from the US if I was a leader of a European state, and the country was in a pinch, simply because I wouldn't be able to stand being helped by someone as arrogant* as you are.







      *Which just goes to show that you should never let me run a country.

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