Occupy leaders arrested for plot to blow up bridge

[Cow Poke]

Irony!

I don't think that word means what you THINK it means.

[JimL]

Really, here is a question for you, who started it? It sure wasn't a 'grass roots' group, it was a group called 'Adbusters'. Do you even know what 'grass root' means Jimmy?

And here is a question for you, do you even know who AdBusters is. Do you even know the difference between grass roots and astroturf. Apparently not.

[Cow Poke]

And here is a question for you, do you even know who AdBusters is. Do you even know the difference between grass roots and astroturf. Apparently not.

Well, going to Asbuster's website, here's the current picture.... Is that YOU Jimmy?

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[Cow Poke]

And here is a question for you, do you even know who AdBusters is.

This is from the front page of AdBusers' website, Jimmy....

AdBusters.org

Hey occupiers: the old world has no future; their leaders have no solutions. Now everything from how we live to how we love and how the world is governed is up for grabs. Can we rise to the challenge? Let the tactical brainstorm begin.

for the wild,
Culture Jammers HQ

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"for the wild"???????
"Culture Jammers"??????

Sounds like some leftover hippies who got hold of some bad acid*!!!!



(*that would be LSD, Jimmy)

[lilpixieofterror]

Irony!

And so says Mr 'OWS is a grass roots movement' Jimmy. Do you know what 'grass roots', means Jimmy?

[Chrawnus]

Irony is anonymous using Guy Fawkes masks to hide their identity.

[Cow Poke]

Irony is anonymous using Guy Fawkes masks to hide their identity.

I must be tired. I found this hilariously funny and I don't even know why!

[lilpixieofterror]

And here is a question for you, do you even know who AdBusters is. Do you even know the difference between grass roots and astroturf. Apparently not.

Yes Jimmy, I looked it up before I spoke (you know, unlike you). Grass root movements are usually movements that are formed by a community of people themselves. Not a group that spends their time developing protesting such as OWS. I guess you don't know how to use Google to look up definitions of words before you speak? I did and I found stuff like this:

A grassroots movement (often referenced in the context of a political movement) is one driven by the politics of a community. The term implies that the creation of the movement and the group supporting it are natural and spontaneous, highlighting the differences between this and a movement that is orchestrated by traditional power structures. Grassroots movements are often at the local level, as many volunteers in the community give their time to support the local party, which can lead to helping the national party. For instance, a grassroots movement can lead to significant voter registration for a political party, which in turn helps the state and national parties.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grass_roots

AdBusters created OWS for the purpose of advertising it's beliefs and policies to the public and it was far from being organized at the local level or being spontaneous. Really Jimmy, do you even look up things before you speak or do you like looking like a total tool?

[rogue06]

And the kicker is, when the media wants a "sound bite" response from a Tea Party or OWS event, they can get a great sound bite from nearly ANYBODY they approach at OWS -- you can ALWAYS count on them to say something wacky, or ... "well, I don't know exactly why we're here, but....." And just about ANYBODY at a Tea Party event can summarize pretty succinctly what they're all about.

Oh, and any cop cars you might find near TP events won't have poop on them, and the officers won't be clashing with the attendees.

But remember all the special, protective rape-free zone tents they put up at the Tea Party rallies because of all the sexual assaults taking place.

What? You don't remember them? Oh yeah. That's right. That took place at the occupy protests. My bad.

[rogue06]

And here is a question for you, do you even know who AdBusters is. Do you even know the difference between grass roots and astroturf. Apparently not.

I'm a bit familiar with them. From another thread:

In contrast the Occupy movement was dreamed up by AdBusters, the "anti-consumerist" organization which started the Occupy Wall Street movement and is in part financed by the Tides Foundation which is in turn financed by the infamous billionaire hedge-fund manager George Soros. Soros has also given millions to MoveOn which has joined the occupiers in several demonstrations and marches.

Soros is in effect the grandfather of the occupy movement. Interestingly though while announcing his sympathy and support for the movement he helped start he also lobbied for even greater handouts to bankers in 2009.

Soros, who has been convicted of insider trading in France, pocketed $1 billion betting against the British pound on “Black Wednesday” in 1992, when it lost 20% of its value in less than 24 hours earning him the reputation of “the man who broke the Bank of England.” Talk about your vulture capitalists.

But let's get back to the group that dreamt up the Occupy movement, AdBusters.

Exploring Occupy Wall Street's 'Adbuster' Origins

The protests go by a variety of names: "Occupy Wall Street," "American Autumn," "The 99 Percent." And the lack of a unified message is matched by a lack of centralized control. But the protests share a common spark: a disillusioned Canadian adman.

The Occupy protests seemed to come out of nowhere. But the early participants, like John Garcia in downtown Seattle, point to a very specific catalyst.

"I get Adbusters, so that's how I heard about it," he says.


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Under the photograph it states that "the demonstrations were inspired by a blog post by Kalle Lasn, founder of Adbusters magazine."

The last sentence of the story is "And as the continuing scene in lower Manhattan attests, Lasn certainly knows how to launch a campaign."

After Igniting Wall St. Protests, Magazine Proposes One Clear Demand

Three months ago, the Canadian magazine Adbusters called for a protest on Wall Street, providing the spark that began a wildfire of protest across the country and, over the weekend, in an increasing number of cities around the world.


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Adbusters founders cheer their Occupy idea

With roots that reach as far as Cairo's fertile Tahrir Square, the Occupy protests roiling Wall Street will finally come full circle this weekend as they blossom in Canada, where they were conceived by Vancouver-based Adbusters.


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The Branding of the Occupy Movement

Kalle Lasn, the longtime editor of the anticonsumerist magazine Adbusters, did not invent the anger that has been feeding the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations across the United States.

But he did brand it.

Last summer, as uprisings shook the Middle East and much of the world economy struggled, Mr. Lasn and several colleagues at the small magazine felt the moment was ripe to tap simmering frustration on the American political left.

On July 13, he and his colleagues created a new hash tag on Twitter: #OCCUPYWALLSTREET. They made a poster showing a ballerina dancing on the back of the muscular sculptured bull near Wall Street in Manhattan.

For some people they were just words and images. For Mr. Lasn, they were tools to begin remodeling the “mental environment,” to create a new “meme,” the term coined by the evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins for a kind of transcendent cultural message.


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So now that we've established that Adbusters pretty much started the whole thing (the sources above aren't exactly Fox News) let's take a quick look at them. Seems that after Osama bin Laden's death Adbusters ran a feature that castigated the left for not lining up and supporting him.

Who Mourns for Osama?
The ideological bankruptcy of the left

Why then has there been no outcry, not even a murmur of dissent, over the assassination of Osama Bin Laden? How did it come to pass that the enemy of American cultural, economic and military imperialism is no longer the friend-by-default of the radical left?

...

One reasonable explanation for why the left supported Chairman Mao but turns its back on Sheikh Bin Laden is that Mao's ideology of Communism was essentially Western.


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So Adbusters, who even those on the left say was behind the Occupy Wall Street protests, bemoans that the left didn't embrace bin Laden as a comrade in the struggle.

So the answer to your question is that Adbusters is the group that thinks we should be on the side of Osama bin Laden and who are behind the OWS movement.

[Nathan Poe]

Ever been part of a community organization or a company NP? Those who are given the authority to lease property in the name of the said event, company, organization, person, etc are often those put into leadership positions to start with.

Nevertheless, my question remains -- who (if anyone) gave this guy the authority?

That's why I think we need to follow the money.

Don't know nor care; I just found Jimmy's comment to be pretty dumb and thought to say something. Those given the authority to lease property under a groups name tend to be in some sort of position of leadership of the said group. Unless you think that is not a general rule...

I agree with you 100% -- which is why I want to know -- did anyone give this guy the authority, or did he claim it for himself?

I think following the money would provide a clear answer to that question.

[JimL]

I'm a bit familiar with them. From another thread:




So the answer to your question is that Adbusters is the group that thinks we should be on the side of Osama bin Laden and who are behind the OWS movement.

It doesn't matter who Adbusters is, they didn't organize nor do they orchestrate the occupy movement. They merely provided the spark to a movement that was already in gear. Thats the difference between Occupy and The Tea Party. Occupy is grass roots, they're not bussed all over the country, fed and housed by multimillionaires like the Koch Bros who have co-opted them for their own secret agenda, which is to co-opt a political party.They're not orchestrated by political hacks like Dick Army or promoted by propagandists like Fox news and the rest of the corporate run echo chamber whose purpose is to undermine democracy. The Tea Party is not leading, they are being led, They're funded, organised and orchesrated from without, they are uninformed people for the most part, being led like children to their own demise.

[Cow Poke]

It doesn't matter who Adbusters is,

Then WHY DID YOU ASK, you crazy JACKWAGON!

And here is a question for you, do you even know who AdBusters is.

I think YOU didn't know, and when we skeweled you on it, it was embarrassing! ** Pay no attention to those men molesting those women in the tents at the OWS rally **

Tissue?

[rogue06]

And here is a question for you, do you even know who AdBusters is.

I show how even the left credits them for being behind OWS and their support for Osama bin Laden and by extension Al Qaeda so we get...

It doesn't matter who Adbusters is, they didn't organize nor do they orchestrate the occupy movement.

Btw, the Koch brothers, unlike Adbusters were relatively late to the party (the Tea Party that is). The first time they were connected to the Tea Party was a couple months before the 2010 election whereas the first protests started in January of 2009.

If anyone or anything can be considered behind the Tea Party movement it would be folks from Ron Paul's failed 2008 campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. Paul is often refered to as the "intellectual godfather" of the movement.

You are just full of... fail

[Cow Poke]

If anyone or anything can be considered behind the Tea Party movement it would be folks from Ron Paul's failed 2008 campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. Paul is often refered to as the "intellectual godfather" of the movement.

You are just full of... fail

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