Arizona Bans NON-Abortion Planned Parenthood funding

[Jedidiah]

Nick:
In other words, you're right on board with Conservatives' war on women.

Do you remember all the rape shelters at Teaparty gatherings? Oh, wait that was the OWS gatherings, sorry.

[RumTumTugger]

I'm going to take it a step further. Planned Parenthood's idea of a "war on women" is a massive smokescreen. In reality, not only does the money that fund them go to abortions the money that funds them goes to "educational" sites that I cannot link to encourage teenagers to have open, free sex with as many partners as they wish, and how they wish worry; worry free. Why? Because now of course they don't have to suffer the consequences or even feel too embarrased by unneccessary consequences. See Planned Parenthood tells these kids how to do all of these things by stopping into a clinic for condoms long lasting Birth Control for women that you don't have to have mom and dad's permission for then it goes state by state for the laws on birth Band abortion should a "consequence" happen. My thoughts are PP is up to no good has zero interest in family and womens health and is more interested in ripping family's apart and baby killing than justifying an "imaginary non existent war." Besides, want or need birth control? Abstinence is absolutely free. Have a personal or medical reason, By Law your state must provide you with free access to it, so stop in to your local health dept or see your physician.

you are right about PP is using this so called war against women as a smokescreen to help hid the fact that they and their supporters have a "War against Religion" and those with a true feeling that killing of an unborn human being is wrong. the only choice they want to have allowed is those for abortion other wise they would not fight to force doctors, hospitable ect. to provide Abortions no matter what their Religious faith says about it. Until; the so called Pro choice allows a true choice on medical providers to opt out htey are pro abortion in my mind and the ware is not as they would have it against women but a War against Religion. So I for one am Hear by giving notice to those of you who use the falsehood about it being a war against woman will be shown for the solders of the War against Those with a deeply held religious belief THAT ALL INNOCENT HUMAN BEINGS ARE DESERVING OF LIFE not just those that are convenient.

[Psychic Missile]

A way to stop the bleeding is with a bandaid. But a better way is to stop jabbing one's self with a knife. Rather than just teach sexual education alone, morality should be stressed.

What kind of morality? Just basic knowledge of contraception practiced by a careful person takes unwanted pregnancies and the majority of STDs out of the picture. That seems pretty final to me.

[Jedidiah]

Do you remember all the rape shelters at Teaparty gatherings? Oh, wait that was the OWS gatherings, sorry.

Rats! I see 06 already used this. Please ignore my post and go with that by Rogue.

[themuzicman]

This is what we mean by 'war on women.'

Washington Post

PHOENIX — Gov. Jan Brewer on Friday signed into law a bill to cut off Planned Parenthood’s access to taxpayer money funneled through the state for non-abortion services.

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It's just more proof that conservatives of this brand aren't actually interested in reducing abortions. The proponents' rationale was "to ensure no public money indirectly supports abortion services."

Just one more reason for my disdain of conservative principles.


Cheers,

Nick

Yeah, because we all know that PP would NEVER use those funds to pay for, say, the buildings and utilities and other general medical equipment that the abortion side of the business just happens to use.

Oh wait......


You see, Nick, what you are exposing is the liberal war on women, namely the MILLIONS of women murdered by Planned Parenthood. And you want to continue to murder women by the millions.

Of course, we also know that NO OTHER facilities actually do this kind of work... Oh wait.. THEY DO.

So, this invention of your mind really has more to do with the fact that you want more unborn women to die.

That makes the liberal position sickening.

[nickcopernicus]

Seriously, what kind of logic is that? Give a company money and they'll kill a few babies but they'll also give people stuff to prevent the process that requires them to kill babies. Why wouldn't I just want to put my funds into something that provides birth control services without abortion?

Nick:
Lot's of organizations do stuff that I don't agree with. But if they do more good than harm, then I'm all for it. I will respect that you're completly against women having the choice of having an abortion or not. But I think that banning funding for planned parenthood.....when the abortion-based funding is already banned....is rabidly misogynic. Becuase you're basically banning women's health funding.

Cheers,

Nick

[nickcopernicus]

nickcopernicus =

Nick:
Great argument! You stupid fool.

[nickcopernicus]

Yeah, because we all know that PP would NEVER use those funds to pay for, say, the buildings and utilities and other general medical equipment that the abortion side of the business just happens to use.
Oh wait......

Nick:
Exactly! Therefore, we should cut all funding for education because we never know which medical schools may train people who will be abortion doctors.

themuzicman:
You see, Nick, what you are exposing is the liberal war on women, namely the MILLIONS of women murdered by Planned Parenthood. And you want to continue to murder women by the millions.

Nick:
I want you to let me know what percentage of those who have abortions are conservatives compared to that of liberals. Thanks in advance. I suspect my point here has been made.

themuzicman:
Of course, we also know that NO OTHER facilities actually do this kind of work... Oh wait.. THEY DO.

So, this invention of your mind really has more to do with the fact that you want more unborn women to die.

That makes the liberal position sickening.

Nick:
Liberal, socialistic countries like DENMARK tend to have fewer abortion rates than that of America. Perhaps you should check the plank in your own eye, des ne?

Cheers,

Nick

[nickcopernicus]

For all his many, considerable faults, nobody can say Obama isn't socially savvy. The way he wields armies of imbeciles like they were his own limbs is incredible. I doubt even he realized how easily the hordes of orangutans that serve under him would absorb his absurd propaganda and integrate it into their daily vocabulary.

Nick:
Let me know when you can put together an argument where you don't come across as a political hack. When you do, perhaps we can have a discussion.

[nickcopernicus]

As for corruption, multiple and pending charges of performing illegal abortions and siphoning state and federal moneys.

Nick:
Interesting claim. And your source is?....Got any PRIMARY sources? I mean, don't link me to some right wing propaganda website.

theblueprint_Ni
It may sound rhetorical but I think it more fitting, do you have any proof that they wouldn't?

Nick:
Errr, the fact that only 3% of their funding is for abortions…? for starters. Secondly, you made the claim. I know it probably sounded really good, but if you want to have an intelligent discussion with me, then you won’t make unsubstantiated claims. In other words, less rhetoric and hyperbole, and more facts please.

theblueprint_Ni
Have you heard of Margaret Sanger? Abortion is their MO. That's what they are. Planned Parenthood was founded on the philosophy that unplanned, undesired, and unfunded children are a blight, especially those of the poor, therefore they are better off disposed.

Nick:
Yes, I have heard of Margaret Sanger. Your point is….?
BTW, unplanned, undesired, poor, and unfunded children are a blight. Want some good hard evidence? How many black, crack babies are you planning on adopting? Hint, that’s why they’re called ‘unwanted.’ If someone wanted them, they’d have them.

Cheers,

Nick

[Darth Executor]

come across as a political hack

Conservatives' war on women

lol

[themuzicman]

Nick:
Exactly! Therefore, we should cut all funding for education because we never know which medical schools may train people who will be abortion doctors.

Typical liberal response when the errors of their logic has been exposed.

Nick:
I want you to let me know what percentage of those who have abortions are conservatives compared to that of liberals. Thanks in advance. I suspect my point here has been made.

If you have an abortion that isn't to save your life,, you're pro-choice, so, 100% of those who have non-medical abortions are pro-choice.

(Oh, and black women have abortions at about 4x the rate of whites and other races, and 92% of blacks are liberal. Another point made....)

QED. My point IS made.

Nick:
Liberal, socialistic countries like DENMARK tend to have fewer abortion rates than that of America. Perhaps you should check the plank in your own eye, des ne?

Perhaps you should grow a brain and figure out why different cultures might have different abortion rates, rather than making the rather stupid assumption that abortion rates must automatically translated into supporting your agenda.

[Catholicity]

Well, I've heard some pretty stupid Planned Parenthood ads in my day (the "Mile High" ad comes to mind) but I can't remember one where PP actually encouraged teenagers to have "open, free sex with as many partners as they wish." Even if you can't link to such sites, I'd like to be directed to them. Planned Parenthood's teen section on their own site appears entirely responsible.

Hey Sam, Let me get back to you with what the tweb rules are you regarding this one here because of the graphic nature of such sites. If you could do me a big favor and copy an area green. we'll work from there.

[Hamster]

Nick:
Lot's of organizations do stuff that I don't agree with

Sure they kill babies, but man they brew a mean cup of coffee

But if they do more good than harm, then I'm all for it.

So if I had an animal rights organization and I tortured 10,000 animals per year, but saved 30,000 animals from being tortured, you'd pay me? Keep in mind that there are plenty of other places that have no torture at all and save the same or more.

But I think that banning funding for planned parenthood.....when the abortion-based funding is already banned....is rabidly misogynic. Becuase you're basically banning women's health funding.

Yeah it's not "rabidly misogynist" or a "war on women" or any other emotionally loaded shaming terms designed to sway the insecure and gullible. The issue is whether or not they're killing human beings that have a right to live. Framing it in terms of women's rights is disingenuous unless you've already persuaded your audience that dismembering embryonic humans isn't murder. I've already said that I'd support any non-abortion organization that funds women's health. The way you frame the discussion you'd think that vacuuming an embryo out of your body was the way you identify femaleness. Instead of, say, having two X chromosomes.

Oh? You voted against George Bush? I can only assume that you want the terrorists to win. Why do you hate america? etc

[Ansgar Seraph]

Hey Sam, Let me get back to you with what the tweb rules are you regarding this one here because of the graphic nature of such sites. If you could do me a big favor and copy an area green. we'll work from there.

I'm not sure what "copy an area green" means but you can always e-mail me; I'll PM my address to you.

—Sam