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      Infant Resurrection?

      This probably involves pure speculation and will most likely spawn other questions, but for starters: How would you answer the question regarding infant/baby deaths in relation to the resurrection? What sort of resurrection body will they receive, or will they even have a resurrection body...infant souls in heaven?
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      Quote Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
      This probably involves pure speculation and will most likely spawn other questions, but for starters: How would you answer the question regarding infant/baby deaths in relation to the resurrection? What sort of resurrection body will they receive, or will they even have a resurrection body...infant souls in heaven?
      Will they have a resurrection body? Unquestionably yes. The New Jerusalem will be here on (the new) earth, so that's where they'll be. What sort of resurrection body will they receive? The same as everyone else. Beyond this is speculation.

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      Quote Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
      Will they have a resurrection body? Unquestionably yes. The New Jerusalem will be here on (the new) earth, so that's where they'll be. What sort of resurrection body will they receive? The same as everyone else. Beyond this is speculation.
      So the infant who died will be in mature bodily form at the resurrection? Is there any difference between an infant's soul and the soul of an adult in this life?

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      Quote Originally posted by Scrawly View Post
      So the infant who died will be in mature bodily form at the resurrection?
      I don't know.
      Is there any difference between an infant's soul and the soul of an adult in this life?
      An infant's soul does not have any experience of sin. Otherwise, I don't know.

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      Re: Infant Resurrection?

      How can any one know scrawly? It's not addressed.

      Perhaps they will be resurrected as infants and their parents or some other adults will raise them and they will grow into mature adults and then stop aging? Or perhaps they will be resurrected as mature adults?

      There are lots of things we just don't know. At what age will anyone be resurrected? 20? 30? The age they died at?

      What about weight? If they were fat will they be resurrected fat and have to lose weight? Or what if they were born a dwarf? would they be a dwarf when resurrected? Or normal size? and if so, what is the cut off for being "grown" to normal size? 3 ft? 4ft? 5ft? I would like to be a few inches taller.

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      Re: Infant Resurrection?

      We already know that there is probably at least two ways in which bodies will differ: When there is "no more suffering" in Revelation, that would mean that anything in one's body that causes chronic pain in this life would presumably no longer be a problem there. Also, we will be "like the angels", i.e. sexless there, which I would assume probably will result in a physical difference as well. But we don't know much more than this... other than that we have no idea what God has prepared for us (1 Corinthians 2:9).

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      Quote Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
      We already know that there is probably at least two ways in which bodies will differ: When there is "no more suffering" in Revelation, that would mean that anything in one's body that causes chronic pain in this life would presumably no longer be a problem there. Also, we will be "like the angels", i.e. sexless there, which I would assume probably will result in a physical difference as well. But we don't know much more than this... other than that we have no idea what God has prepared for us (1 Corinthians 2:9).
      I seriously doubt we will be genderless. God made us men and women in the garden, and that was his plan for mankind. and our gender has a great deal to do with our personalities.

      being "like the angels" has nothing to do with sex or gender.

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      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      I seriously doubt we will be genderless. God made us men and women in the garden, and that was his plan for mankind. and our gender has a great deal to do with our personalities.

      being "like the angels" has nothing to do with sex or gender.
      I agree, I highly doubt that we will all end up like some kind of Barbie or Ken doll once we get to Heaven.
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      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      I seriously doubt we will be genderless. God made us men and women in the garden, and that was his plan for mankind. and our gender has a great deal to do with our personalities.

      being "like the angels" has nothing to do with sex or gender.
      Contextually, though, it would make sense, because it was mentioned in the context of how we would not be married in heaven.

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      Quote Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
      Contextually, though, it would make sense, because it was mentioned in the context of how we would not be married in heaven.

      well not being married doesn't mean not having gender. After all we won't remain in heaven, but will live on the New Earth with physical bodies. Angels don't have physical bodies (except maybe temporary ones when visiting on earth). And even if we don't have sexual relations or marriage in the New Earth, it doesnt mean we wouldnt have genders.

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      Re: Infant Resurrection?

      Either way, this discussion strengthens the point OBP made about how much we just don't know and how limited our set of data is.

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      Quote Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
      Either way, this discussion strengthens the point OBP made about how much we just don't know and how limited our set of data is.
      yep

      although, Jesus was still male when he resurrected.
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      maleness and femaleness are still around, they're just no longer about procreation
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      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      How can any one know scrawly? It's not addressed.

      Perhaps they will be resurrected as infants and their parents or some other adults will raise them and they will grow into mature adults and then stop aging? Or perhaps they will be resurrected as mature adults?

      There are lots of things we just don't know. At what age will anyone be resurrected? 20? 30? The age they died at?

      What about weight? If they were fat will they be resurrected fat and have to lose weight? Or what if they were born a dwarf? would they be a dwarf when resurrected? Or normal size? and if so, what is the cut off for being "grown" to normal size? 3 ft? 4ft? 5ft? I would like to be a few inches taller.
      Hello Sparko,

      You raise some interesting issues in your observation.. Often its best to ask questions rather than to give answers. Too it's the question that keep us from telling the lie because we often times don't know.. Yeah Scrawly is right, it probably is more speculation.. But that doesn't mean we can't deduct from some things written.. Often to comfort a parent who has lost a infant child in this life the answers seem important..

      Myself am such a parent. It was an extremely sorrowful period in my and my wife's life. We never blamed anyone accept maybe ourselves for the situation, but that also can be a common issue especially when how things happen.. One parent may feel more responsible because of the nature of the tragedy in our eyes.. But really to approach this kind of thing we should understand one important aspect in our Christian life. This is God's world/Creation and God does things for specific reasons or can allow things for specific reasons.. Nature seems to put forth challenges but who can really say? Because God does things for reasons we can't imagine. Now I will get off this philosophical justification and deal with my observations from Scripture a little about what I can see as closer to the truth..

      I will not quote verse and Chapter but merely point to some things that I think we all or most of us have read and I will trust the comforter to do the rest..


      One story in particular after Christ's resurrection he was walking and talking for some time with two of his apostles. It wasn't for some time and only closer to the end of the journey that Christ revealed his true identity.. Now they knew this person was special because he had explained certain prophetic vision they had lacked up until that point.. Why had they not recognized for so long? It's strange.. Now there is an allegory to this story as often is the case. But that doesn't take away as it being a literal event in the lives of those Apostles.

      My sister just before her death when talking to me said, I hope God has a better body for me because I don't want to be fat and ugly for an eternity.. If she has to live eternity as she did here in this world? No thanks to a resurrection was her response.. There are different ways to suffer, often we don't truly understand others suffering like they do..

      Now In another story Christ is speaking and he say's, who among you can change your stature or height by thought.. Now is Christ referring to our actual body? He could be? But it could be like his statements? Destroy this temple and in 3 days I will raise it up.. An inverse so to speak... We all know what he meant now, but they didn't then. Was Christ speaking allegorically as our thoughts now can change our social stature in height? Its often the case when trying to figure in a narrow window of reasoning the limits when there may not be any?

      Here is what I have come to believe is the truth of such things.. Because God can do anything.. He will do just what is needed because he loves his children.. There may be times in the kingdom of Heaven that we will look just as we are and there may be time we will be unrecognizable because that is what is called for.. There are no limits in the kingdom..
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      Quote Originally posted by maudman View Post
      Here is what I have come to believe is the truth of such things.. Because God can do anything.. He will do just what is needed because he loves his children.. There may be times in the kingdom of Heaven that we will look just as we are and there may be time we will be unrecognizable because that is what is called for.. There are no limits in the kingdom..
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      I tend to agree. I think our resurrection bodies will be the perfect "us" no matter what that turns out to be.

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