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      Wicca is an evil, demonic power thirsty faith.

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      Calmly now.

      This is knee-jerk post based on a question presented to me.

      The question was:
      Is Mormonism or Wicca on your agenda?

      Knowing how slow witches are to respond on this forum, I decided to take a plunge into the ether lands of the LDS - Mormonism forum (here on Theology Web Campus) and within 10 posts I began encountering dark matter from a couple of Christians who made some unsubstantiated claims about Wicca.

      The first came from Bill The Cat (Department Head) who stated:

      "Wicca has no foundation in reality"

      The second came from a new t-webber - SwordEphesians6 who stated:

      "Wicca is pure evil, I used to dabble in it."

      I presented the following reply:

      'Contrary to what those who choose to persecute or lie about us wish to believe, Wicca is a very peaceful, harmonious and balanced way of life which promotes oneness with the divine and all which exists.' What is Wicca by Herne (read more)

      To which I received further unsubstantiated statements by SwordEphesians6 (and decided it was time I brought the argument here to Wicca Land):

      "Harmonious? Really? Bending the forces of nature to your will? Hardly seems harmonious to me. (I used to dabble in this stuff)"

      "Wicca is ancient, it is paganism revived, a lane on the road to destruction."

      "Wicca is an evil, demonic power thirsty faith."

      Of course I asked for specifics and I'm sure I'll get some details, but in the meantime I thought it best to bring it here and direct the flow of argument here as best as I can.

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      "Wicca is both a religion and a Craft. ... As a religion - like any other religion - its purpose is to put the individual and the group in harmony with the divine creative principal of the Cosmos, and its manifestation at all levels. As a Craft, its purpose is to achieve practical ends by psychic means, for good, useful and healing purposes. In both aspects, the distinguishing characteristics of Wicca are its Nature- based attitude, its small group autonomy with no gulf between priesthood and 'congregation', and its philosophy of creative polarity at all levels, from Goddess and God to Priestess and Priest.' "

      Janet and Stewart Farrar, Eight Sabbats For Witches, Robert Hale, London, 1981.

      From: Wicca and Witchcraft (Pagan Federation - New Zealand)
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      Re: Wicca is an evil, demonic power thirsty faith.

      As I stated in the other thread:

      That's just the window dressing. None of that is anchored in any reality. It is a feelings based response used to draw you away from the truth of the resurrection. "Oneness" with God only comes through Jesus Christ, not any peaceful, harmonious and balanced act we perform.

      I'll ask a counter question... What is the foundation of Wicca?
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      Re: Wicca is an evil, demonic power thirsty faith.

      Define Foundation: The Foundational Practice, Belief or History?

      At a short, The Foundation of most Pagan faiths of which Wicca is one is the practice of our faith to bring us closer to the divine which we see in all things and all people All is One.

      Blessed Be, Dur
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      Quote Originally posted by Durthorin View Post
      Define Foundation: The Foundational Practice, Belief or History?
      The foundation of Christianity is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is a single historic event we point to as the bedrock of our faith. Everything else depends on that historical fact.
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      Don't mind me folks, I just want to see how this one plays out.

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      Re: Wicca is an evil, demonic power thirsty faith.

      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      The foundation of Christianity is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is a single historic event we point to as the bedrock of our faith. Everything else depends on that historical fact.
      Scripture Verse:

      1 Cor 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

      2 Tim 2:1-2

      Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.


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      Re: Wicca is an evil, demonic power thirsty faith.

      and "evil" doesn't necessarily mean something horrible and mean. It is anything that detracts men from worshiping the true God, so in that respect, all other religions and even atheism is "evil"

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      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      The foundation of Christianity is the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is a single historic event we point to as the bedrock of our faith. Everything else depends on that historical fact.
      But it is not a historical fact, there is no historical evidence of the event, the resurrection is something that you accept as a matter of faith. Sorry.

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      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Scripture Verse:

      1 Cor 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

      *smile* Sorry quoting the Bible to me is about like a Moslem quoting the Koran to you.. Null program. I don't believe the Bible.

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      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      and "evil" doesn't necessarily mean something horrible and mean. It is anything that detracts men from worshiping the true God, so in that respect, all other religions and even atheism is "evil"
      Very true, arguing that any non-Christian faith is good to a Christian is by the definition of your faith a waste of time. So I never bother on that one. The Christian faith requires that any non-Christian is either ignorant or willfully evil. Such is life.

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      Quote Originally posted by Durthorin View Post
      But it is not a historical fact, there is no historical evidence of the event, the resurrection is something that you accept as a matter of faith. Sorry.

      Blessed Be, Dur
      Of course there is historical evidence. We have several eye witness testimonies to it. That is pretty much the only type of historical evidence we have of any event in history, written records, and many times it isn't even from eye witnesses, but written by others decades and centuries after the event.

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      Quote Originally posted by Durthorin View Post
      *smile* Sorry quoting the Bible to me is about like a Moslem quoting the Koran to you.. Null program. I don't believe the Bible.

      Blessed Be, Dur
      You asked a question about our foundation. That you don't believe it doesn't make it null. Program fail.

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      Quote Originally posted by Durthorin View Post
      Very true, arguing that any non-Christian faith is good to a Christian is by the definition of your faith a waste of time. So I never bother on that one. The Christian faith requires that any non-Christian is either ignorant or willfully evil. Such is life.

      Blessed Be, Dur
      It's just logical. If Christianity is true, then logically all other religions are false.

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      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      It's just logical. If Christianity is true, then logically all other religions are false.
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      Re: Wicca is an evil, demonic power thirsty faith.

      Quote Originally posted by Durthorin View Post
      But it is not a historical fact, there is no historical evidence of the event, the resurrection is something that you accept as a matter of faith. Sorry.

      Blessed Be, Dur
      No historical evidence? Really? So why do people like Mike Licona, Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, NT Wright, to name a few, write entire volumes on the historicity of the resurrection? Also why do critical scholars accept that same historical evidence ?

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