Modern Christian Philosophy

[Whag]

Who are the really engaging Christian philosophers today and what are they saying that's edifying? I want to be bowled over by a good strong speaker or writer. Plantinga and Moreland don't count mainly because of what's in my signature, and because from essays I've read of theirs they are boring.

[shunyadragon]

Who are the really engaging Christian philosophers today and what are they saying that's edifying? I want to be bowled over by a good strong speaker or writer. Plantinga and Moreland don't count mainly because of what's in my signature, and because from essays I've read of theirs they are boring.

Your making it tough dropping two of the major modern stars from the list. Most others bring nothing really new from the Evangelical Fundamentalist and the respective of the Roman Church there are numerous recent philosophers, but they mostly hold the old lines.

Some may cite CS Lewis, but nothing new here

I personally would have to move on to some Mystic Islamic philosophers, Native American, Buddhist, and modern Baha'i Philosophers.

[Whag]

Your making it tough dropping two of the major modern stars from the list. Most others bring nothing really new from the Evangelical Fundamentalist and the respective of the Roman Church there are numerous recent philosophers, but they mostly hold the old lines.

Some may cite CS Lewis, but nothing new here

I personally would have to move on to some Mystic Islamic philosophers, Native American, Buddhist, and modern Baha'i Philosophers.

Do they offer insight about humankind's relationship to the natural world?

[fm93]

Plantinga and Moreland don't count mainly because of what's in my signature

Says the guy who quotes Chrissy Hallquist as a legitimate academic source.

But anyway, to answer the OP: Richard Swinburne and William Lane Craig are two of the other big names (Craig is definitely a strong speaker), and there's also Peter Van Inwagen and Marilyn McCord Adams.

[Manwë Súlimo]

If "good philosopher" is determined by what "bowls Whag over", then I'm afraid I can't know what constitutes an effective bowler nor am I convinced that "good" and "bowled Whag" are synonymous.

[Whag]

Says the guy who quotes Chrissy Hallquist as a legitimate academic source.

I don't know who Chrissy Hallquist is. I only read her article on Plantinga's creationist paper trail, which I did not know about. I never cited her (or him?) as a "legitimate academic source" but merely to credit her (it?) for the well expressed quote.

But anyway, to answer the OP: Richard Swinburne and William Lane Craig are two of the other big names (Craig is definitely a strong speaker), and there's also Peter Van Inwagen and Marilyn McCord Adams.

Craig isn't a philosopher as far as I know. Thanks for the other names. What do you like about Swinburne or the others?

[Manwë Súlimo]

Craig isn't a philosopher?! DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THAT?!

[Whag]

Craig isn't a philosopher?! DID YOU REALLY JUST SAY THAT?!

Yes I did. Big oops. I take it back.

Is there any conservative Christian philosopher that isn't affiliated with the Discovery Institute, I guess should have been my question.

[shunyadragon]

Do they offer insight about humankind's relationship to the natural world?

Native American and Baha'i philosophers do offer insights about humankind's relationship with the natural world.

Baha'i

Guy Murkie - Music of the Spheres

John Medina - Faith, Physics and Science, The Purpose of Physical Reality

John s. Hatcher - Close connections

[headheart]

Who are the really engaging Christian philosophers today and what are they saying that's edifying? I want to be bowled over by a good strong speaker or writer. Plantinga and Moreland don't count mainly because of what's in my signature, and because from essays I've read of theirs they are boring.

Whag,
I agree with post 5. Perhaps if you explained your own philosophical position it might be easier to clean bowl you.

Peace,
Eric.

[Kane]

Who are the really engaging Christian philosophers today and what are they saying that's edifying? I want to be bowled over by a good strong speaker or writer. Plantinga and Moreland don't count mainly because of what's in my signature, and because from essays I've read of theirs they are boring.

I was partial to Gregory Boyd, John Sanders, and Clark Pinnock (RIP) when I was in bible college. Despite my eventual deconversion, I still keep their works with me.

[headheart]

I was partial to Gregory Boyd, John Sanders, and Clark Pinnock (RIP) when I was in bible college. Despite my eventual deconversion, I still keep their works with me.

Why did you deconvert?

[shunyadragon]

Why did you deconvert?

[headheart]

Are these New Age sock puppets?

[Kane]

Why did you deconvert?

Very big question. Lots of complex answers. Adrift and I exchanged a couple of PMs on this topic. If I could distill my deconversion into an easy statement, it would be: because Christianity stopped making sense.