Question regarding Plural Marriage

[OtherCheek]

In Russia, during the period of 1941-1946, the ratio of men to women in the 20-29 year-old age group, fell from .91 to .65. (Men per Women).
http://web.williams.edu/Economics/fa...rd-rfwomen.pdf
I suspect the same happened in Germany as evidenced by the fact that the conscription age for men into service became 16-60.
http://www.histclo.com/essay/war/ww2/age/ww2-age.html

"The casualties suffered by the nations which were involved in the combat had impact on the demographic profiles of the post war populations. For example, one study arrived at the conclusion the male to female sex ratio in the Bavaria state of Germany had fallen to as low as 60 % for those between the ages of 21 and 23 in 1946. In addition, the births out of wedlock increased from between 10 to 15% during the interwar years to 22% when the war ended. The increase in out of wedlock births was attributed to a change in the marriage market which had been caused by the decline in the sex ratio (Reid, 1974)."
http://www.essaysprofessors.com/samp...s-of-WWII.html

Finally, another source:
Coronary artery disease (CAD) is three times higher among men who are clinically depressed.
Male suicides outnumber female suicides in every age group.
Homicide and suicide are among the top three causes for death among males between the ages of 15 and 34.
By the age of 85, women outnumber men in the U.S. 2.2 to 1; this rises to 3 to 1 if they reach their 90s.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500368_162-4418804.html

It is not inconceivable that at some future day, prolonged war, depression, suicide and disease my claim the lives of more men than women, and sex ratios may drop significantly in some countries. Under such circumstances, out-of-wedlock births have been shown to rise significantly. http://www.asb.unsw.edu.au/schools/e...ildbearing.pdf

Would you consider a widely unbalanced gender ration as a valid reason for laws permitting the practice of plural marriage (at least for a time period)--in order to rebuild the population?

[Sparko]

no.

[Hamster]

I think a woman should have 3-4 male partners to ensure that she gets pregnant

[Sparko]

I think a woman should have 3-4 male partners to ensure that she gets pregnant

nah, better to just leave all the female children out in a field somewhere to help even out the population.

[OtherCheek]

I think a woman should have 3-4 male partners to ensure that she gets pregnant

Many do, and it's not illegal. I'll put you down for this being your most intelligent answer.

[Brown Cat]

Would you consider a widely unbalanced gender ration as a valid reason for laws permitting the practice of plural marriage (at least for a time period)--in order to rebuild the population?

This sounds to me like one of those "ends justifying the means" things. I would consider such a practice to be resorting to sin to try to alleviate prior consequences of sin.

[MWM958]

well...you don't have to be married to have kids. hope everyone knows that.

[Cow Poke]

In Russia, during the period of 1941-1946, the ratio of men to women in the 20-29 year-old age group, fell from .91 to .65. (Men per Women).
http://web.williams.edu/Economics/fa...rd-rfwomen.pdf
I suspect the same happened in Germany as evidenced by the fact that the conscription age for men into service became 16-60.
http://www.histclo.com/essay/war/ww2/age/ww2-age.html

"The casualties suffered by the nations which were involved in the combat had impact on the demographic profiles of the post war populations. For example, one study arrived at the conclusion the male to female sex ratio in the Bavaria state of Germany had fallen to as low as 60 % for those between the ages of 21 and 23 in 1946. In addition, the births out of wedlock increased from between 10 to 15% during the interwar years to 22% when the war ended. The increase in out of wedlock births was attributed to a change in the marriage market which had been caused by the decline in the sex ratio (Reid, 1974)."
http://www.essaysprofessors.com/samp...s-of-WWII.html

Finally, another source:
Coronary artery disease (CAD) is three times higher among men who are clinically depressed.
Male suicides outnumber female suicides in every age group.
Homicide and suicide are among the top three causes for death among males between the ages of 15 and 34.
By the age of 85, women outnumber men in the U.S. 2.2 to 1; this rises to 3 to 1 if they reach their 90s.
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500368_162-4418804.html

It is not inconceivable that at some future day, prolonged war, depression, suicide and disease my claim the lives of more men than women, and sex ratios may drop significantly in some countries. Under such circumstances, out-of-wedlock births have been shown to rise significantly. http://www.asb.unsw.edu.au/schools/e...ildbearing.pdf

Would you consider a widely unbalanced gender ration as a valid reason for laws permitting the practice of plural marriage (at least for a time period)--in order to rebuild the population?

Simple question, OC.

Are you going to be suggesting that there was a need for plural marriage during the time of Smith and Young, because of a shortage of males?

[Hamster]

Many do, and it's not illegal. I'll put you down for this being your most intelligent answer.

Under what circumstances would you share your wife with another man?

[Sparko]

Under what circumstances would you share your wife with another man?

Perhaps if the LDS Prophet came to him and told him that God wants his Prophet to take OC's wife as his own. that's pretty much what Smith did.

[Cow Poke]

Perhaps if the LDS Prophet came to him and told him that God wants his Prophet to take OC's wife as his own. that's pretty much what Smith did.

And, given OC's dedication to Mormonism, it would not surprise me if OC dutifully responded, "sure, I'd share my wife". What other choice does he have?

[OtherCheek]

Simple question, OC.

Are you going to be suggesting that there was a need for plural marriage during the time of Smith and Young, because of a shortage of males?

I think the case can be made that there were more women members of the Church than male members of the Church at that time. And considering the fact that we are strongly counseled to marry within our faith...

[Cow Poke]

I think the case can be made that there were more women members of the Church than male members of the Church at that time. And considering the fact that we are strongly counseled to marry within our faith...

Any stats to back that up, besides "thinking that the case can be made"? And, is there any evidence from that period that this was the rationale for plural marriage?

[Sparko]

Any stats to back that up, besides "thinking that the case can be made"? And, is there any evidence from that period that this was the rationale for plural marriage?

and besides, if that was the case, why did Smith have to take the wives of other men? There should have been enough single women around for him to marry rather than to have to take other men's wives as his own.

[eudyptes]

This seems to fly in the logic that has been put forth earlier, at least in regards to Smith. When it's been suggested that there was a sexual reason for the plural marriages, it's been brought up that there have been no DNA records to show Smith has any descendants through the plural marriage side.

If the reason for plural marriage was to "populate", then there would have to be a sexual "side" to things...it can't be both asexual and "to populate" without setting up a conflict within the teaching.