Temple Marriage and outsiders

[Bill the Cat]

"piece of trash"???

Yes. It resembles National Inquirer quote mining.

Ahh, the anti-Mormon rhetoric is alive and well today.

If it walks like a duck and quacks...

I'm giving you the LDS perspective, Bill.

And I'm telling you that the LDS "perspective" is claptrap.

Your reaction simply indicates you have greater interest in "arguing against" and "vilifying", rather than understanding a perspective different than yours.

I fully understand your perspective, and I understand that it is wrong. As I have said umpteen times, the EXISTENCE of a perspective does not validate the TRUTHFULNESS of that perspective.

[Bill the Cat]

Not "lost ordinances" but remembered and fulfilling of covenants made with the Fathers of old.

That the Bible already claims as fulfilled in Jesus' day.

[OtherCheek]

That the Bible already claims as fulfilled in Jesus' day.

How does the Bible claim that the dead who never heard of Christ or His Gospel, are to be saved?

[Cow Poke]

I am stymied, then. As far as we know, both her marriages were in the temple, actually the one in Salt Lake, as that's where she resides.

Mormons actually have a "sealing cancellation" ceremony, Moss. I think this is the Mormon expression for "divorce". I have no idea if this would apply in a death situation, but if the Mormons are claiming that a woman can be sealed ONLY to one man, and we know that many women lose husbands and remarry, I would not be surprised if there was a "sealing cancellation" for this ---- but I'm just guessing!

[Bill the Cat]

How does the Bible claim that the dead who never heard of Christ or His Gospel, are to be saved?

I'm talking about the Malachi prophecy.

[Cerebrum123]

How does the Bible claim that the dead who never heard of Christ or His Gospel, are to be saved?

The Malachi prophecy doesn't deal with that, and that's what we are talking about.

[Sparko]

Not "lost ordinances" but remembered and fulfilling of covenants made with the Fathers of old.

but it doesn't even say that, OC.

[OtherCheek]

The Malachi prophecy doesn't deal with that, and that's what we are talking about.

What was so "great and dreadful" about the birth of Christ? Or his life on the earth?

I know there are a lot of Christians who believe that the great and dreadful day of the Lord is past, and there is not going to be another one. But I believe it is coming.

Why would the earth be smitten with a curse if the hearts of the children are not turned to their fathers? And vise versa?

I've explained what we believe and the reason for it. We both already know that what I believe, you would not.

[OtherCheek]

but it doesn't even say that, OC.

Right. But the LDS believe what the angel Moroni told Joseph regarding the meaning of this verse in Malachi.

[Cow Poke]

Right. But the LDS believe what the angel Moroni told Joseph regarding the meaning of this verse in Malachi.

And we know that there was an angel named Moroni because Smith said there was, but Smith was a real prophet, because he said he was, and the Book of Mormon.....

[OtherCheek]

And we know that there was an angel named Moroni because Smith said there was, but Smith was a real prophet, because he said he was, and the Book of Mormon.....

"The Spirit whispers this to me and tells me it is true. And tells me it is true."

Line from the LDS Primary Songbook.

[Sparko]

Right. But the LDS believe what the angel Moroni told Joseph regarding the meaning of this verse in Malachi.

so in effect you are admitting that Moroni was a lousy bible interpreter?

[OtherCheek]

so in effect you are admitting that Moroni was a lousy bible interpreter?

And that Sparko possesses the knowledge of God. No. Not really.

[Sparko]

And that Sparko possesses the knowledge of God. No. Not really.

well you admitted that the verse was not talking about convenants or marriage. So if Moroni said it was, then he was a bad bible interpreter. Or a liar, or he never existed. Simple logic.

[Cow Poke]

Right. But the LDS believe what the angel Moroni told Joseph regarding the meaning of this verse in Malachi.

I don't know why, but every time I see "Moroni" I think of Marconi.

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