The War on Women

[rogue06]

SENATE DEMS BETRAY LILLY: SENATE DEMOCRATS PAY FEMALE STAFFERS LESS THAN MALE STAFFERS

A group of Democratic female senators on Wednesday declared war on the so-called “gender pay gap,” urging their colleagues to pass the aptly named Paycheck Fairness Act when Congress returns from recess next month. However, a substantial gender pay gap exists in their own offices, a Washington Free Beacon analysis of Senate salary data reveals.

Of the five senators who participated in Wednesday’s press conference—Barbara Mikulski (D., Md.), Patty Murray (D., Wash.), Debbie Stabenow (D., Mich.), Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.) and Barbara Boxer (D., Calif.)—three pay their female staff members significantly less than male staffers.

Murray, who has repeatedly accused Republicans of waging a “war a women,” is one of the worst offenders. Female members of Murray’s staff made about $21,000 less per year than male staffers in 2011, a difference of 35.2 percent.

That is well above the 23 percent gap that Democrats claim exists between male and female workers nationwide. The figure is based on a 2010 U.S. Census Bureau report, and is technically accurate. However, as CNN’s Lisa Sylvester has reported, when factors such as area of employment, hours of work, and time in the workplace are taken into account, the gap shrinks to about 5 percent.



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Boxer is even worse with women on her staff making 41% less than men.





OK, I'll admit it. The only reason I checked this out was because the source is the "Washington Free Beacon" and I thought it said Free Bacon

[The Moonshield]

To add to your post:

Hostile Workplace - Obama White House pays women less than men, records show

Female employees in the Obama White House make considerably less than their male colleagues, records show.

According to the 2011 annual report on White House staff, female employees earned a median annual salary of $60,000, which was about 18 percent less than the median salary for male employees ($71,000).

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And from 2008:

Is McCain’s Senate Office a More Lucrative Workplace for Women Than Obama’s?

Conservative columnist Deroy Murdock has an interesting piece today that takes a look at what Sens. Barack Obama, D-Ill., and John McCain, R-Ariz., pay their Senate staffers.

Using the public information compiled on the Web site of the non-partisan group Legistorm, Murdock concludes that, on average, women in McCain’s office are paid more than the men in McCain’s office — $1.04 for every dollar a man makes. Men in Obama’s office make more than women do; female employees make 83 cents for every dollar made by male employees.

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[lilpixieofterror]

I'm not too suprised to hear this. I have also noticed though from my non-military girl friends that they simply work less hours and not as high paying jobs as many men do. I don't think the whole 'gender pay gap' is nearly as bad or an issue as extreme liberals make it sound.

[Little Shepherd]

Don't worry. I'm doing my part as a man, working a minimum wage job in my efforts to close the gender gap.

[David Hayward]

In Britain, the Equalities and Human Rights Commission is reported (by Private Eye magazine, scouge of the Establishment) as not practising what it preaches: that information about numbers of employees of different gender, ethnicity, etc, at each management level, should be collected and published -- the aim being to highlight and correct any discrimination.

But it employs its senior managers indirectly via companies set up purely to provide the mangers as "consultants" -- a tax avoidance dodge -- and so claims to be unable to collect or provide that anti-discrimination information itself, claiming that would breach contract confidentiality with the companies involved.

Hypocrites!

David

[SarahB]

I'm not too suprised to hear this. I have also noticed though from my non-military girl friends that they simply work less hours and not as high paying jobs as many men do.

Do you mean hours which contain less than sixty minutes, like the psychiatrists' "fifty minute hour"?

I don't think the whole 'gender pay gap' is nearly as bad or an issue as extreme liberals make it sound.

Well, last you checked, how bad is it? Is it sort of bad? Should it not be addressed at all?

[Soyeong]

Do you mean hours which contain less than sixty minutes, like the psychiatrists' "fifty minute hour"?

Less hours as in less hours per week, not that they do less work in the same number of hours.

Well, last you checked, how bad is it? Is it sort of bad? Should it not be addressed at all?

The problem is that if it is only sort of bad, then addressing the problem has the potential to make it worse. For instance, anti-discrimination laws were a good idea when business owners wouldn't hire minorities even if they were more qualified for the job. Now it's doing more harm than good because business owners are forced to hire a certain number of minorities even if they are less qualified for the job.

[rogue06]

Do you mean hours which contain less than sixty minutes, like the psychiatrists' "fifty minute hour"?

Well, last you checked, how bad is it? Is it sort of bad? Should it not be addressed at all?

I think she means less hours as in fewer hours per week. If, for example, you come in late because you had to drop the kids off at school (or leave early to pick them up or take the day off because they're sick) you are working less hours than your co-workers.

Having been the unmarried guy in an office I was often asked to stay late and finish work that those who had to leave didn't finish. I was the one who was expected to change my vacation plans to accommodate those with families. I was also the one who got promoted and a raise as a result.

[SarahB]

Less hours as in less hours per week, not that they do less work in the same number of hours.

So that would be fewer hours.

The problem is that if it is only sort of bad, then addressing the problem has the potential to make it worse. For instance, anti-discrimination laws were a good idea when business owners wouldn't hire minorities even if they were more qualified for the job. Now it's doing more harm than good because business owners are forced to hire a certain number of minorities even if they are less qualified for the job.

Really? Where?

[SarahB]

I think she means less hours as in fewer hours per week.

Yes. Inept usage of one's native language often leads to confusion and lack of confidence -- and lower wages than one's peers, I should think.

If, for example, you come in late because you had to drop the kids off at school (or leave early to pick them up or take the day off because they're sick) you are working less hours than your co-workers.

Having been the unmarried guy in an office I was often asked to stay late and finish work that those who had to leave didn't finish. I was the one who was expected to change my vacation plans to accommodate those with families. I was also the one who got promoted and a raise as a result.

Getting a promotion, one might very well expect higher pay. Being paid a lower salary due solely to gender (irrespective of motherhood) should be discouraged.

[rogue06]

Yes. Inept usage of one's native language often leads to confusion and lack of confidence -- and lower wages than one's peers, I should think.

I had no trouble understanding her

Getting a promotion, one might very well expect higher pay. Being paid a lower salary due solely to gender (irrespective of motherhood) should be discouraged.

The point being that while there were others who worked there as long as I did, by their putting in only 36-38 hours every week and taking more than triple the days off that I took meant I quickly amassed more experience -- and a reputation for reliability. Hopefully I expressed myself sufficiently well that my answer hasn't led to more confusion on your part.

[Soyeong]

So that would be fewer hours.

The grammar isn't correct, but the meaning is still clear.

Really? Where?

I was referencing Affirmative Action.

[SarahB]

I had no trouble understanding her


The point being that while there were others who worked there as long as I did, by their putting in only 36-38 hours every week and taking more than triple the days off that I took meant I quickly amassed more experience -- and a reputation for reliability.

Sure, and that experience and reliability should bring rewards irrespective of gender.

Hopefully I expressed myself sufficiently well that my answer hasn't led to more confusion on your part.

Oh, yes, efforts toward clear communication are considered good and proper.

[Sparko]

From what I have noticed in over 30 years of working, is that generally women are less aggressive than men when it comes to interviews and salary reviews. This is not to say all women, but generally.

Men tend to ask more when it comes to getting a job or time for a raise. Most companies want to pay EVERYONE as little as they can. So if you tend to be less forceful in negotiating your salary, or raise, you will get less than someone who is. That goes for men or women.

[Teallaura]

On a somewhat related note, House Dems blocked the ban on sex-selective abortion. Evidently, Dems are okay with killing a baby purely because it's a girl. Forget equal pay - we're evidentally not equally allowed to live!