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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      well, SURE, because....

      (Prov 14:12 KJV) There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
      Prov 14:12 says that heeding Prov. 14:16 is the way of death?
      "Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world.
      And behold, I am the light and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in c\taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning."


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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      Prov 14:12 says that heeding Prov. 14:16 is the way of death?
      No it's not saying that at all, it's saying that some things that seem right to people are wrong.

      Proverbs 14:12 There is a way that appears to be right,
      but in the end it leads to death.
      13 Even in laughter the heart may ache,
      and rejoicing may end in grief.
      14 The faithless will be fully repaid for their ways,
      and the good rewarded for theirs.
      15 The simple believe anything,
      but the prudent give thought to their steps.
      16 The wise fear the Lord and shun evil,
      but a fool is hotheaded and yet feels secure.

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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      Prov 14:12 says that heeding Prov. 14:16 is the way of death?
      Only to somebody with incredibly poor reading skills, OC. It was referencing Jeff's use of a verse of scripture that defeats his own argument where Jeff said....

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      But it seemed so appropriate.
      Just because something SEEMS appropriate doesn't make it so. (You're really in "misrepresent mode" this morning --- is that the daily Mormon Talking Point? )
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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      I wasn't sure whether to post the following comment here in the Decker/Hitler thread, or in the "Lying for the Lord" thread, so I flipped a coin.


      Decker and his alleged lies about the LDS were the topic of a thread in another forum a year or so ago. So Old Nick himself (that would be Decker) actually showed up to "respond" to the things that were being said about him. He tried to deny that he had said this and that about the LDS, but we had lots of documented evidence, in the form of photocopies of original documents, etc., so he tried to throw red herrings once it was clear he couldn't disavow the evidence. If I recall correctly--a year or more has gone by--one of us (probably me) asked him about the famous "When you're fighting the devil's church" incident. I think the question went something like "Did you really say that?" and TMK he didn't deny it. But if I have time and inclination I will try to hunt down that thread to verify.
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
      religious conversation dwells chiefly, or even frequently,
      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
      -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209).

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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      I wasn't sure whether to post the following comment here in the Decker/Hitler thread, or in the "Lying for the Lord" thread, so I flipped a coin.


      Decker and his alleged lies about the LDS were the topic of a thread in another forum a year or so ago. So Old Nick himself (that would be Decker) actually showed up to "respond" to the things that were being said about him.
      For REAL? Seriously, how do you know it was really him. (Not saying it wasn't, but that's pretty interesting)

      He tried to deny that he had said this and that about the LDS, but we had lots of documented evidence, in the form of photocopies of original documents, etc., so he tried to throw red herrings once it was clear he couldn't disavow the evidence. If I recall correctly--a year or more has gone by--one of us (probably me) asked him about the famous "When you're fighting the devil's church" incident. I think the question went something like "Did you really say that?" and TMK he didn't deny it. But if I have time and inclination I will try to hunt down that thread to verify.
      Yeah, I'd really like to see that, Jeff. (A lot of times I find Google a lot easier to use for searching websites than Tweb's own search function) I need to eat supper, then go to the gym. I'll look for it, too, but you'd know some key words better than I would.
      2 Tim 2:1-2

      Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.


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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      For REAL? Seriously, how do you know it was really him. (Not saying it wasn't, but that's pretty interesting)



      Yeah, I'd really like to see that, Jeff. (A lot of times I find Google a lot easier to use for searching websites than Tweb's own search function) I need to eat supper, then go to the gym. I'll look for it, too, but you'd know some key words better than I would.
      if you add site:theologyweb.com to a google search it will just search this site.

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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      if you add site:theologyweb.com to a google search it will just search this site.
      Yup.... and it's pretty quick and inclusive!
      2 Tim 2:1-2

      Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.


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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      For REAL? Seriously, how do you know it was really him. (Not saying it wasn't, but that's pretty interesting)...
      The thought ran through my mind, too, but after enough posting from him, he made believers out of all of us.
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
      religious conversation dwells chiefly, or even frequently,
      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
      -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209).

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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      The thought ran through my mind, too, but after enough posting from him, he made believers out of all of us.
      Interesting. But then you somehow went back to being a Mormon again?

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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      if you add site:theologyweb.com to a google search it will just search this site.
      Something I did not know. Thanks.

      Edit to add: I tried it and got this thread, for one:

      http://www.waltermartin.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2423
      Last edited by nrajeff; May 31st 2012 at 08:14 PM.
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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Posts 2 and 3, and 106 here


      http://www.waltermartin.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2324

      But it wasn't me who asked him. It was me, however, who posted the clarification in 106.

      Notice, as you read on in both threads, that Ed continued to post, but he ignored some of our questions, such as whether he really accused the Tanners of being possessed.

      Wouldn't "honestly answering the question" be the honest thing to do?
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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Posts 2 and 3, and 106 here


      http://www.waltermartin.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=2324

      But it wasn't me who asked him. It was me, however, who posted the clarification in 106.

      Notice, as you read on in both threads, that Ed continued to post, but he ignored some of our questions, such as whether he really accused the Tanners of being possessed.

      Wouldn't "honestly answering the question" be the honest thing to do?
      Hmm. I don't see where you all posted scans that proved he was lying or that he admitted he was lying or anything like that.

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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Interesting. But then you somehow went back to being a Mormon again?

      Ha. If I believe in the existence of Ed Decker, does that make me Deckerite?
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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      Hmm. I don't see where you all posted scans that proved he was lying or that he admitted he was lying or anything like that.
      None of us cited Robert and Rosemary Brown's research? Maybe it was elsewhere. Anyway, I have vols. 1-4 of They LIE in Wait to Deceive and it contains lots of photocopied documentation. But not for the "Anything goes" story. That one remains the claim of Malin Jacobs (and Bill Forest and Van Hale, if they corroborate it) and remains unrefuted by Decker as far as I know.
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
      religious conversation dwells chiefly, or even frequently,
      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
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      Re: Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      None of us cited Robert and Rosemary Brown's research? Maybe it was elsewhere. Anyway, I have vols. 1-4 of They LIE in Wait to Deceive and it contains lots of photocopied documentation. But not for the "Anything goes" story. That one remains the claim of Malin Jacobs (and Bill Forest and Van Hale, if they corroborate it) and remains unrefuted by Decker as far as I know.
      You made it sound like you posted the evidence in the thread, not referenced some book.

      Decker and his alleged lies about the LDS were the topic of a thread in another forum a year or so ago. So Old Nick himself (that would be Decker) actually showed up to "respond" to the things that were being said about him. He tried to deny that he had said this and that about the LDS, but we had lots of documented evidence, in the form of photocopies of original documents, etc., so he tried to throw red herrings once it was clear he couldn't disavow the evidence. If I recall correctly--a year or more has gone by--one of us (probably me) asked him about the famous "When you're fighting the devil's church" incident. I think the question went something like "Did you really say that?" and TMK he didn't deny it. But if I have time and inclination I will try to hunt down that thread to verify.


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