Is Ed Decker Worse than Hitler?

[nrajeff]

only in response to your posts as far as I can recall. Heck I don't even know how to spell CEV.

I'd call 411 to get the correct spelling for you, but I don't know the number.

[Cow Poke]

You and Sparko have cited the CEV in the past 3 days more than I have, in my whole life.

Maybe it's a Freudian thing?

Probably more a mocking thing.

[Cow Poke]

How about "mentioned or referred to it" ?

How bout you just admit it wasn't the best thing to use the CEV as a proof text, and we agree to drop this?

[Sparko]

Pooteronomy 1:15 (CEV) - "Jeff is a poopiehead!"

[Cow Poke]

Pooteronomy 1:15 (CEV) - "Jeff is a poopiehead!"

There be only ONE Tweb Poopiehead. And thou art that man!



WAIT!!! You're starting a secret club, aren't you!

[Sparko]

There be only ONE Tweb Poopiehead. And thou art that man!



WAIT!!! You're starting a secret club, aren't you!

How did you get out from under that bus? Get thee back under the bus, Cow Poke!

[nrajeff]

How bout you just admit it wasn't the best thing to use the CEV as a proof text, and we agree to drop this?

Sure, as long you will admit that some Bibles are less correct than others, and none of them is 100% correct.

[Cow Poke]

Sure, as long you will admit that some Bibles are less correct than others, and none of them is 100% correct.

Please show me where I ever disputed this, and you have a deal!

Honestly, Jeff, sometimes you can just be incredibly derpy. Do you really not understand the concept of infallibility regarding God's Word?

[OtherCheek]

Please show me where I ever disputed this, and you have a deal!

Honestly, Jeff, sometimes you can just be incredibly derpy. Do you really not understand the concept of infallibility regarding God's Word?

Yea. God's word was perfect and infallible when first given to prophets, but what we are left with is no longer perfect and infallible as it has passed through a lot of hands of folks that are NOT prophets, or have NOT been commissioned by prophets to translate, transcribe, transmit, etc.

[Cow Poke]

Yea. God's word was perfect and infallible when given, but what we are left with is no longer perfect and infallible.

Thanks, Jeff... that's one way of putting it, so can you show me where I EVER said that ANY of our current Bibles are "perfect"?

[JonathanDJ]

In order for Mr. Decker to be responsible for that loss of lives (If they did indeed happen) is if he was involved in a direct act of inciting violence. Put another way, he would have to tell others to go out and kill Mormons and do it NOW! That is inciting violence. I've seen all of Decker's films and he never once calls for violence against anyone. He never even implies that that should be done or that it could be necessary. In my opinion I would sum up his position thus: "Mormonism sucks! Get out as soon as possible!" That is hardly inciting violence. I think what bothers Mormons is that parts of those movies lay out in a plain and unvarnished way the absurdities and vulgarity of their religion. When you look at what Mormons believe you realize it's just plain sick. Further: if you check their website; there is a link that tells you their thirteen beliefs. There is no mention of godhood or gods and goddesses having sex or spirit children. There is no mention of God the father having sex with Mary. All of these things are true but they are entirely absent. Why is that I wonder?

[OtherCheek]

In order for Mr. Decker to be responsible for that loss of lives (If they did indeed happen) is if he was involved in a direct act of inciting violence. Put another way, he would have to tell others to go out and kill Mormons and do it NOW! That is inciting violence. I've seen all of Decker's films and he never once calls for violence against anyone. He never even implies that that should be done or that it could be necessary. In my opinion I would sum up his position thus: "Mormonism sucks! Get out as soon as possible!" That is hardly inciting violence. I think what bothers Mormons is that parts of those movies lay out in a plain and unvarnished way the absurdities and vulgarity of their religion. When you look at what Mormons believe you realize it's just plain sick. Further: if you check their website; there is a link that tells you their thirteen beliefs. There is no mention of godhood or gods and goddesses having sex or spirit children. There is no mention of God the father having sex with Mary. All of these things are true but they are entirely absent. Why is that I wonder?

You don't need to incite violence against a people if you can demonize them and their beliefs. Hitler never publicly called for gas chambers to be built for the Jews. These were mostly rumors until they were confirmed.

[pancreasman]

You don't need to incite violence against a people if you can demonize them and their beliefs. Hitler never publicly called for gas chambers to be built for the Jews. These were mostly rumors until they were confirmed.

How do you differentiate legitimate critique from 'demonizing'?

[nrajeff]

Please show me where I ever disputed this, and you have a deal!

You don't need to have ever disputed it in the past, in order for you to make the concession now.

Honestly, Jeff, sometimes you can just be incredibly derpy.

Well, I am the caretaker for our Cub Scout Pack's Pinewood Derpy track. It needs to be assembled before each event, and taken apart and stored afterwards.

Do you really not understand the concept of infallibility regarding God's Word?

All I know is that some of you claim that when you're following your interpretation of what you believe to be God's word (lower-case, to differentiate it from Jesus) you never state which version of that word is the one that is most correct--the one that is closest to the magic 100%. So how do you know you are following God's word--and not a botched version of it?


If your Bible of choice was the 1631 Barker/Lucas KJV, would you claim that you're following God's word as far as Exodus 20:14 is concerned?

[nrajeff]

In order for Mr. Decker to be responsible for that loss of lives (If they did indeed happen) is if he was involved in a direct act of inciting violence.

You mean like telling anti-USA Bolivian terrorists that the guys on the streets of La Paz dressed like LDS missionaries were actually CIA agents?

Put another way, he would have to tell others to go out and kill Mormons and do it NOW!

Then I guess Brigham Young is off the hook for the MMM if he only "condoned" it, right?

I've seen all of Decker's films and he never once calls for violence against anyone.

In the films, he just accuses us of being dangerous. And that gives you the certitude that he never said anything more inflammatory off-camera, right? Wow. We got another mind-reader among us, folks.