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    1. June 1st 2012, 10:25 AM #46
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      Re: "Lying for the Lord" (Again)

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      Does God know good and evil or not? Did Adam and Eve know good and evil from the beginning or not? What does it meant "their eyes were opened"? Is that a literal meaning in your mind?
      Defending Satan now, are you?

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      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      Does God know good and evil or not? Did Adam and Eve know good and evil from the beginning or not? What does it meant "their eyes were opened"? Is that a literal meaning in your mind?
      God, yes, Adam and Eve, no they did NOT know the difference between good and evil from the beginning. They had only one rule, and they didn't even realize that being naked was shameful. Have you ever heard the phrase "that sure was an eye opener for me"? It means that they now understood these things, that they didn't before. Also, as Sparko observed, your DEFENDING Satan now?
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    3. June 1st 2012, 11:10 AM #48
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      God, yes, Adam and Eve, no they did NOT know the difference between good and evil from the beginning. They had only one rule, and they didn't even realize that being naked was shameful. Have you ever heard the phrase "that sure was an eye opener for me"? It means that they now understood these things, that they didn't before.
      It would seem then that it wasn't all a lie. God knows good and evil. Adam and Eve were unlike that, and then things changed and they DID know good and evil. Therefore became more like God at least in that aspect.

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      Also, as Sparko observed, your DEFENDING Satan now?
      No more than you are saying that God blundered by planting a tree of knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the garden.
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      And behold, I am the light and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in c\taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning."

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      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      It would seem then that it wasn't all a lie. God knows good and evil. Adam and Eve were unlike that, and then things changed and they DID know good and evil. Therefore became more like God at least in that aspect.



      No more than you are saying that God blundered by planting a tree of knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the garden.
      But according LDS, they would have become at least 99% like God, since He is supposed to have a human body in your beliefs. Also, isn't there an LDS believe that Adam WAS God, and that Eve WAS His "eternal wife"?
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      Yep OC is defending Satan now. I have seen it all.
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      Yep OC is defending Satan now. I have seen it all.
      Really? I guess I haven't seen it all, since I haven't seen what you are referring to.
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
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      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
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      Re: "Lying for the Lord" (Again)

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Here ya go:

      God became man so that men might become gods.

      cf St. Athanasius, ca. 296-298 – 373


      St. Irenaeus of Lyons stated that God "became what we are in order to make us what he is himself."
      St. Clement of Alexandria says that "he who obeys the Lord and follows the prophecy given through him . . . becomes a god while still moving about in the flesh."
      St. Cyril of Alexandria says that we "are called 'temples of God' and indeed 'gods', and so we are."
      St. Basil the Great stated that "becoming a god" is the highest goal of all.
      St. Gregory of Nazianzus implores us to "become gods for (God's) sake, since (God) became man for our sake."

      Athanasius, "quoting God" : "...thou shalt be converted into Me."

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diviniz...28Christian%29
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      Certain similarities can be drawn between the two, though a significant difference exists in that Mormons believe that humanity may not only achieve God's holiness and perfection but also his essential divinity or godhood.


      That is indeed a huge difference.

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      Re: "Lying for the Lord" (Again)

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Really? I guess I haven't seen it all, since I haven't seen what you are referring to.
      Of course not Jeff. Of course not.
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      Of course not Jeff. Of course not.
      Lack of backing up your accusation noted. As far as I have seen, the closest OC has come to defending Satan was when I was criticizing some of you guys, and he told me I was being a bit harsh on you. : )
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
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      Re: "Lying for the Lord" (Again)

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      Lack of backing up your accusation noted. As far as I have seen, the closest OC has come to defending Satan was when I was criticizing some of you guys, and he told me I was being a bit harsh on you. : )
      Satan lives in OC's basement -- in the furnace!
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      Quote Originally posted by OtherCheek View Post
      No more than you are saying that God blundered by planting a tree of knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the garden.
      Why? It was for shade.
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