Trump Jr Crushes Journalists*

[demi-conservative]

A really good segment from Fox News on this (of all people!). Shep Smith and Chris Wallace discuss the topic... "It's been lie after lie after lie" from the Trump administration on the issue, "they need to come clean."

Oh look, libtards playing dumb again!!! (actually not hard for them at all!!)

Fox wasn't and isn't overall pro-Trump (eg Megyn Kelly), and after Ailes forced out has gone even worse!

[One Bad Pig]

Why, you'll just dismiss it anyways?

If you have that little confidence in your source, then I likely would. I am more than willing to accept solid evidence - I just haven't seen any yet that even comes close. I am far from a staunch Trump supporter; I'm just deeply cynical about politics in general.

[Mountain Man]

A really good segment from Fox News on this (of all people!). Shep Smith and Chris Wallace discuss the topic... "It's been lie after lie after lie" from the Trump administration on the issue, "they need to come clean."

So when ostensibly conservative pundits spout liberal talking points, you suddenly think they have credibility.



On the flip-side, CNN teleprompter-reader Alisyn Camerota says she is becoming fatigued by the Russian conspiracy and is desperately hoping for a new narrative.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/...nd-i-share-it/

I guess you can only tell a lie so many times before it starts to wear on your conscience.

[JimL]

Well colour me astonished! I agree with every word. Fox has got it right (faints dead away).

Shepard Smith and Chris Wallace, from what I have seen, have always been fair and balanced, so to speak. Thats why they've never been on prime time.

[Bill the Cat]

According to the NY Times Veselnitskaya is seen as fearsome Moscow insider whom lawyers and others in Moscow’s legal community regard as a trusted insider. She is counted on to argue and win important high-profile court cases that matter to the government and serve the interests of top Russian officials. IOW: Just the person to sound out Trump Jr etc re accepting Russian govt. help in winning the election.

According to her and Moscow, she is not involved with the government.

It’s a nation run by the rich oligarch friends of the mafia king himself, i.e. Putin.

Oh, you mean like pretty much every other socialist utopia ends up.

No! Donald Trump Jr. was specifically informed in an email that the material was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy.

Information, dumbass. They were allegedly offering information that was legally theirs to provide. Every campaign collects information. That's not illegal in any way, shape, or form. You simply refuse to get that through your thick skull. Nothing illegal happened here. Get over it.

Wrong! It’s self evidenced that Trump Jr. “loved” the notion of colluding with Russia’s offer. He said so.

He loved that they were offering some information on the opposition. Big freakin deal. It isn't illegal. There was also no indication that this was anything other than a one-time deal to provide a single piece of evidence. There is nothing in any of these emails indicating any illegal activity by Russia or the Trump campaign.

Yeah right!

Yes. Right. Coincidence. And all you have is innuendo and circumstance to rebut.

So many coincidences! All these Trump associates “forgetting” their meetings with Russian officials and Wikileaks starting shortly after the Trump Jr. meeting in Trump Tower...with Trump Sr. himself boasting a few days in advance that there will be “big news” re Hillary .

Considering it's basically impossible to keep straight who you liberal turds are going to label a "Russian official" today, it's no surprise that diplomats and businessmen have difficulty sorting it out amongst their visits. And all you have here are a bunch of eyebrow raising and winks and begging us to leap across huge gaps with you because "Trump Russia"

[shunyadragon]

According to her and Moscow, she is not involved with the government.

Do you actually believe that government agents of Moscow and and the government will tell the truth?!?!?!?!

. . . besides Trump Jr, was told he was meeting with a lawyer of the Russian government.

[Bill the Cat]

Do you actually believe that government agents of Moscow and and the government will tell the truth?!?!?!?!

Define "agent"

. . . besides Trump Jr, was told he was meeting with a lawyer of the Russian government.

Which isn't illegal.

[JimL]

Define "agent"

In this case, someone working for, and in the interests of, Putin and Russia.

Which isn't illegal.

Is whether it was illegal or not all that concerns you?

[Tassman]

According to her and Moscow, she is not involved with the government.

It would be surprising if they didn’t deny involvement. But the NY Times is certain that Veselnitskaya is regarded as a trusted Moscow insider, whom govt. officials and others in Moscow’s have utilised frequently in the past.

Oh, you mean like pretty much every other socialist utopia ends up.

Pretty much like the rampant capitalism of the US, especially under Trump. The point is that you were incorrect in your assessment of Russia as “basically a socialist nation”.

Information, dumbass. They were allegedly offering information that was legally theirs to provide. Every campaign collects information. That's not illegal in any way, shape, or form. You simply refuse to get that through your thick skull. Nothing illegal happened here. Get over it.

Trump Jr. attended the meeting on the understanding that he was going to receive material against Clinton, which was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy. This would have been illegal. Whether it did or not is beside the point, Trump went with the understanding that it would. We have only the word of Trump Jr. that nothing illegal happened. And, given his record for lies and story-changing there’s no good reason to believe him.

He loved that they were offering some information on the opposition. Big freakin deal. It isn't illegal. There was also no indication that this was anything other than a one-time deal to provide a single piece of evidence. There is nothing in any of these emails indicating any illegal activity by Russia or the Trump campaign.

Yeah right! See above.

Yes. Right. Coincidence. And all you have is innuendo and circumstance to rebut.

But so many coincidences!

Considering it's basically impossible to keep straight who you liberal turds are going to label a "Russian official" today, it's no surprise that diplomats and businessmen have difficulty sorting it out amongst their visits.

Of course! It’s the “libtard turds” who are responsible for the long list of members of the Trump campaign and Russian officials who were in contact. According to Reuters “such contacts took place on at least 18 occasions in the final seven months of last year’s presidential campaign, according to a trove of emails and phone calls”. But it’s all the Libtards fault, right?

And all you have here are a bunch of eyebrow raising and winks and begging us to leap across huge gaps with you because "Trump Russia"

Yawn!

[Mountain Man]

Is whether it was illegal or not all that concerns you?

Should we be concerned about legal behaviour?

[Bill the Cat]

In this case, someone working for, and in the interests of, Putin and Russia.

Seriously that is the whole damned country!

Is whether it was illegal or not all that concerns you?

Yup. Because only crimes rise to impeachable offenses. That a politician was willing to accept damaging information on a political opponent is par for the course in the US.

[Bill the Cat]

It would be surprising if they didn’t deny involvement. But the NY Times is certain that Veselnitskaya is regarded as a trusted Moscow insider, whom govt. officials and others in Moscow’s have utilised frequently in the past.

Again, "insider" can mean almost anything you want it to mean.

Pretty much like the rampant capitalism of the US, especially under Trump.

Wrong. There's a huge difference in socialist utopias and capitalist nations. In a capitalist nation, the poor have the opportunities available to become rich. In socialist nations, they don't.

The point is that you were incorrect in your assessment of Russia as “basically a socialist nation”.

No I am not. Russia is basically a socialist nation.

Trump Jr. attended the meeting on the understanding that he was going to receive material against Clinton, which was part of a Russian government effort to aid his father’s candidacy. This would have been illegal.

No it is not illegal. And I dare you to cite the law that was broken. We've already nuked the "campaign finance laws" angle, so you can forget about that one at the start. So, let's have it Tassy, the US law scholar.

Whether it did or not is beside the point, Trump went with the understanding that it would. We have only the word of Trump Jr. that nothing illegal happened. And, given his record for lies and story-changing there’s no good reason to believe him.

Unless you have evidence that he did, he's innocent. That's how US law works.

Yeah right! See above.

Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt by a court of law.

But so many coincidences!

So what? Until you have something of actual value, you are farting in the wind.

Of course! It’s the “libtard turds” who are responsible for the long list of members of the Trump campaign and Russian officials who were in contact.

Yes. It's turds like you who are responsible for overinflating every contact with someone who has Russian blood into basically swapping nuclear codes.

According to Reuters “such contacts took place on at least 18 occasions in the final seven months of last year’s presidential campaign, according to a trove of emails and phone calls”. But it’s all the Libtards fault, right?

Yes. It's the liberal media's fault for conflating several different types of meetings, from actual diplomatic meetings to personal business transactions, into one big huge nothing burger. And every time they are investigated, Trump comes out smelling like a rose.

Yawn!

You probably believe the Lincoln/Kennedy coincidences too

[JimL]

Seriously that is the whole damned country!

Duh, no it isn't the whole damned country. How stupid are you people, seriously? You remind me of those German patriots who were either to ignorant or whose cognative dissonance allowed the holocaust to happen.

Yup. Because only crimes rise to impeachable offenses. That a politician was willing to accept damaging information on a political opponent is par for the course in the US.

So, it doesn't bother you that a Presidential candidate works with, or accept intelligence from, a foriegn adversary whose purpose is to undermine the democratic process and to undermine Democracy itself worldwide in order to get himself elected.

[JimL]

Should we be concerned about legal behaviour?

In some instances, yes we should. Not everything that is not illegal is right, good, or in the best interests of the country.

[Mountain Man]

I'd take you more seriously if you applied that standard consistently.