Jesus questions for mormons

[Chrawnus]

And I officially apologize for calling Jeff a Moron. He is obviously NOT a moron in the actual definition of the term. He's a very intelligent guy who, IMO, can act rather childishly at times, as can we all. And, just to be clear, this apology includes "freakin' Moron" as well.

Yeah, and if sarcastically agreeing that you don't seem to have a clue was so hurtful, then I am sorry, how about we try again?

I on the other hand, have no intention of apologizing for my remark that nrajeff is acting like a 5-year old. I'm not in the business of apologizing for stating the truth.

Not to mention that, if we ignore the fact that there is nothing to apologize for, apologizing to nrajeff would send a sign to nrajeff that he is right about being some kind of victim suffering unjust persecution, when in fact, his general conduct is the major (if not sole) reason of the treatment he's been given.

[Cow Poke]

I on the other hand, have no intention of apologizing for my remark that nrajeff is acting like a 5-year old. I'm not in the business of apologizing for stating the truth.

Completely understandable. I have NOT apologized for calling Jeff a Drama Queen.

Not to mention that, if we ignore the fact that there is nothing to apologize for, apologizing to nrajeff would send a sign to nrajeff that he is right about being some kind of victim suffering unjust persecution, when in fact, his general conduct is the major (if not sole) reason of the treatment he's been given.

My apology for calling Jeff a Moron was sincere, and I stand by it. I honestly do not believe Jeff is a Moron.

[nrajeff]

Yeah, and if sarcastically agreeing that you don't seem to have a clue was so hurtful, then I am sorry, how about we try again?

How about you "edify" us by telling us how hurtful an insult NEEDS to be in order to qualify as an insult? If insults aren't insults as long as the person you insult doesn't take them as insults, then why are the moderators here? Why do they hand out infractions?

Apparently the MODERATORS think that there actually is such a thing as insulting behavior, and apparently the moderators have SOME criteria by which they make SOME decisions regarding which insults to delete and punish the poster for posting, and which insults to "let slide."

[Sparko]

How about you "edify" us by telling us how hurtful an insult NEEDS to be in order to qualify as an insult? If insults aren't insults as long as the person you insult doesn't take them as insults, then why are the moderators here? Why do they hand out infractions?

Apparently the MODERATORS think that there actually is such a thing as insulting behavior, and apparently the moderators have SOME criteria by which they make SOME decisions regarding which insults to delete and punish the poster for posting, and which insults to "let slide."

yeah we are so unfair Jeff.

[Cerebrum123]

I on the other hand, have no intention of apologizing for my remark that nrajeff is acting like a 5-year old. I'm not in the business of apologizing for stating the truth.

Not to mention that, if we ignore the fact that there is nothing to apologize for, apologizing to nrajeff would send a sign to nrajeff that he is right about being some kind of victim suffering unjust persecution, when in fact, his general conduct is the major (if not sole) reason of the treatment he's been given.

Well, my comment was purely sarcastic, and wasn't quite what like you said about him acting like a five year old. I am basically saying, that if I was truly so hurtful that he can't stand it(this was a purely sarcastic remark, but the one where I called him the "drama king"(to be nice I didn't use "queen" since he was so upset about that one)) than I am sorry. however, if he continues to be a "drama queen", then I will call him on it. Also, other than that one comment, nothing I said had been meant as a sarcastic jab. So, I will try to refrain from sarcastic jabs, but I will not withhold the truth from him when he is acting out. That ok with you Chrawnus? What about you Jeff?

[nrajeff]

I on the other hand, have no intention of apologizing for my remark that nrajeff is acting like a 5-year old.

That's okay--I don't plan on apologizing for saying that you are acting like a ONE-year-old. 'Cause "I don't apologize for telling the truth," etc.

I'm not in the business of apologizing for stating the truth. Not to mention that, if we ignore the fact that there is nothing to apologize for, apologizing to nrajeff would send a sign to nrajeff that he is right about being some kind of victim suffering unjust persecution, when in fact, his general conduct is the major (if not sole) reason of the treatment he's been given.

Blather away. As BTC says, "Who cares?"

[Cow Poke]

Apparently the MODERATORS think that there actually is such a thing as insulting behavior, and apparently the moderators have SOME criteria by which they make SOME decisions regarding which insults to delete and punish the poster for posting, and which insults to "let slide."

bolding mine....

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[nrajeff]

Well, my comment was purely sarcastic, and wasn't quite what like you said about him acting like a five year old. I am basically saying, that if I was truly so hurtful that he can't stand it(this was a purely sarcastic remark, but the one where I called him the "drama king"(to be nice I didn't use "queen" since he was so upset about that one)) than I am sorry. however, if he continues to be a "drama queen", then I will call him on it. Also, other than that one comment, nothing I said had been meant as a sarcastic jab. So, I will try to refrain from sarcastic jabs, but I will not withhold the truth from him when he is acting out. That ok with you Chrawnus? What about you Jeff?

I think you should acknowledge the fact that remarks can qualify as a personal attack EVEN IF the person you say it to CAN stand it. I.e., whether or not your remark is a personal attack does not depend on how thick the skin of the person you attacked is.

So the callous "You need to grow a thick skin" does not magically make the insult a non-insult. Jesus probably had a very thick skin, but the people who mocked and abused Him were STILL guilty of mocking and abusing Him.

[Cerebrum123]

How about you "edify" us by telling us how hurtful an insult NEEDS to be in order to qualify as an insult? If insults aren't insults as long as the person you insult doesn't take them as insults, then why are the moderators here? Why do they hand out infractions?

Apparently the MODERATORS think that there actually is such a thing as insulting behavior, and apparently the moderators have SOME criteria by which they make SOME decisions regarding which insults to delete and punish the poster for posting, and which insults to "let slide."

Like I said in my post to Chrawnus, it was a sarcastic jab, and considering how even then you did not take offense, I didn't think that it was something that was 'out of bounds". Now, some of the stuff that YOU have called lpot, now I think that it was a bit out of line, but she's not complaining about it, and i will leave it up to her if she wants to say anything about it. Also, if you knew my family, then you would understand where I am coming from. I am regularly called names, and for no reason other than them being silly, from what I had observed so far, I had thought you would have been ok with a few good natured jabs. I guess I had read you all wrong.

[Chrawnus]

That's okay--I don't plan on apologizing for saying that you are acting like a ONE-year-old. 'Cause "I don't apologize for telling the truth," etc.



Blather away. As BTC says, "Who cares?"

Point in case.


And to Cow Poke and Cerebrum: I agree with everything you said in response to my comment. I did not write the post as some kind of put-down of your apologies, but as an explanation to why no apology would be forthcoming from me.

[Cow Poke]

Point in case.


And to Cow Poke and Cerebrum: I agree with everything you said in response to my comment. I did not write the post as some kind of put-down of your apologies, but as an explanation to why no apology would be forthcoming from me.

Understood.

[Cerebrum123]

Point in case.


And to Cow Poke and Cerebrum: I agree with everything you said in response to my comment. I did not write the post as some kind of put-down of your apologies, but as an explanation to why no apology would be forthcoming from me.

Understood. I was clarifying MY reasons for apology. Figured at the very least Jeff would understand where I am coming from that way/

[Bill the Cat]

.... Jesus probably had a very thick skin, but the people who mocked and abused Him were STILL guilty of mocking and abusing Him.

And He mocked people too!

[lilpixieofterror]

It's just sad, if that many people, with consciences that seared, are concentrated into one forum. It's not entertaining at all, except to people who feel the need to stoop that low to find entertainment.

And do you count yourself among those or do you give yourself a free pass and think you're above the rules you expect everybody else to go by?

[nrajeff]

Understood. I was clarifying MY reasons for apology. Figured at the very least Jeff would understand where I am coming from that way/

Oh, I understand where you are coming from--I just think that where you are coming from is an incorrect place.