Jesus questions for mormons

[Bill the Cat]

Maybe you should just learn it from Gospel Principles.

http://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles?lang=eng

I needed that good dose of funny fiction today. Thanks!

[nrajeff]

Let's see if you continue to whine.

Isn't it true that every time you whine "Joseph Smith attacked MY church FIRST! Waaaah!"
it's YOU who is whining? (Disclaimer: The "Waaaah!" part may not have been an exact quote)

No, Jeff... you can't help yourself. And you're helping the lurkers see PLENTY!

I hope so: I hope they are seeing how fallacious, petty, malicious, and hypocritical (a Baptist preacher, no less) SOME anti-LDS people can be.

[nrajeff]

I needed that good dose of funny fiction today. Thanks!

You slimy, sleazy little MAGGOT! How DARE you even call yourself a HUMAN BEING! That was the most DISGUSTING, FILTHY, PERVERTED thing any sentient life form has EVER SAID! STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD!!!!!

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[Bill the Cat]

You slimy, sleazy little MAGGOT!

I guess you'd say that would be accurate around here, since all maggots get to feed on is rotting meat and crap... just like your posts!

How DARE you even call yourself a HUMAN BEING!

Wow! I see you speak Whinese! A man of many "talents" huh?

That was the most DISGUSTING, FILTHY, PERVERTED thing any sentient life form has EVER SAID! STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD!!!!!

No.

[Cow Poke]

Isn't it true that every time you whine "Joseph Smith attacked MY church FIRST

Statement of fact, Jeff. And he was a liar and a false prophet, so I really don't take it on a personal level.

Waaaah!"

You do that so well.

(Disclaimer: The "Waaaah!" part may not have been an exact quote)

Well, yeah, why should you start NOW?

I hope so: I hope they are seeing how fallacious, petty, malicious, and hypocritical (a Baptist preacher, no less) SOME anti-LDS people can be.

You REALLY can't help yourself, can you! In your goofy accusations, you're just doing more whining!

Let's see it again in German....

[nrajeff]

That is classic hypocrisy. It should be the dictionary definition's entry for it.


"When you LDS have a problem with what we antis say, it's whining, but when we antis have a problem with something one of you LDS said, it's 'statement of fact.' "

Instead of "have a Snickers" I think in your case we should tell you to have some Doubleminded....er, Doublemint Gum.

[Cow Poke]

That is classic hypocrisy. It should be the dictionary definition's entry for it.

Well, the way you guys redefine terms, that should work!

"When you LDS have a problem with what we antis say, it's whining, but when we antis have a problem with something one of you LDS said, it's 'statement of fact.' "

Is it NOT a statement of fact, Jeff, that your "prophet" declared all other religions apostate?

Instead of "have a Snickers" I think in your case we should tell you to have some Doubleminded....er, Doublemint Gum.

Doubleminded? Ever since I came to the conclusion that Joseph Smith is a false prophet, and the Book of Mormon is a work of fiction, I haven't wavered a single bit, Jeff.

[OtherCheek]

Is it NOT a statement of fact, Jeff, that your "prophet" declared all other religions apostate?

Is this another classic CP "summation"?

Maybe you can do a little research and find the actual quotes from Joseph Smith.

[Cow Poke]

Is this another classic CP "summation"?

Maybe you can do a little research and find the actual quotes from Joseph Smith.

OR, you can actually respond and "clarify".

[Sparko]

I'll take "False dichotomies" for $200, Alex. LDS doctrine is that Jesus was Jehovah in OT, AND is a God. In OT times, He was the God of Israel, and He was a spirit, since He had yet to become mortal.

Maybe the part that you aren't getting, is that Jesus' existence dates back to BEFORE He was the God of Israel, BEFORE the world even existed. It's THAT part of His existence I was referring to.

Maybe you should just learn it from Gospel Principles.

http://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles?lang=eng

I don't pretend to be able to explain it better than it can.

False dichotomy? You are the one who told Cerebrum that he didn't know what he was talking about when he asked if Jesus was a God in the OT times. Then you said he was just "god-like" and now you are saying he is and was a God.

Make up your mind Jeff.

[Sparko]

Jeff mentioned this. And yes Jesus was always God-like from before the foundation of the earth, and was foreordained because of his pre-eminence and being like unto the Father in all things. (Except for having a resurrected body).

so just God-LIKE and not actually a God. OK. Jeff seems to disagree with you (and apparently himself) now.

The Father is not conjoined with the Son in their essence, more accurately. But they are ONE God in every other conceivable and inconceivable manner--except being of the one essence as essence is defined by the creeds.

so is he a God or just God-Like?

You seem to be disagreeing with your first statement above now.

That's a clown question, bro. And you are the clown.

Translation: "oops, Sparko found another gaping hole in the LDS theology. I better ignore it and insult him instead"

OC, the Father in LDS theology doesn't do squat, other than give birth to our spirits and do P.A. announcements out of the clouds once in a while. Jesus did everything else. He was Jehovah in the OT. He was the Creator who made everything. He is the Judge who judges everyone. He is the Savior who saves everyone.

[Sparko]

You slimy, sleazy little MAGGOT! How DARE you even call yourself a HUMAN BEING! That was the most DISGUSTING, FILTHY, PERVERTED thing any sentient life form has EVER SAID! STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD!!!!!

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Actually Jeff, this is MY thread. I am tired of your idiotic shenanigans. So you stop posting in this thread, mm-kay? That's a nice drama queen.

[nrajeff]

so just God-LIKE and not actually a God. OK. Jeff seems to disagree with you (and apparently himself) now.

Wrong yet again. (Do you ever get tired of being wrong so frequently?)

OC spelled it out in the very post you were mocking: "from before the foundation of the earth"


That is not the Old-Testament era, FYI. Both OC and I agree with the LDS doctrine on this.
Oops, Sparko failed to find yet another hole in the reasoning he's basing his idiotic shenanigans on.

[Bill the Cat]

That is classic hypocrisy. It should be the dictionary definition's entry for it.


"When you LDS have a problem with what we antis say, it's whining, but when we antis have a problem with something one of you LDS said, it's 'statement of fact.' "

Instead of "have a Snickers" I think in your case we should tell you to have some Doubleminded....er, Doublemint Gum.

Carrot Top is a better comedian than you...

[Bill the Cat]

Wrong yet again. (Do you ever get tired of being wrong so frequently?)

OC spelled it out in the very post you were mocking: "from before the foundation of the earth"


That is not the Old-Testament era, FYI. Both OC and I agree with the LDS doctrine on this.
Oops, Sparko failed to find yet another hole in the reasoning he's basing his idiotic shenanigans on.

Jesus never "became" God. Neither did His Father.