are OC and Jeff going to hell?

[Cow Poke]

I am pretty sure that once you are in hell you won't be able to leave.

Something about a "great gulf fixed", Mossy? WHO was it that said that?

[mossrose]

Something about a "great gulf fixed", Mossy? WHO was it that said that?

:thinks:

Drat.

[Cow Poke]

It's in red letters in my Bible!

(Luke 16:26 KJV) And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

[mossrose]

It's in red letters in my Bible!

(Luke 16:26 KJV) And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.

I knew that, CP. Was faking it for the Mormons' sake.* Wanted to know if THEY knew the right answer.




















*Also accentuating the un-usability of my custom smilies.

[Cow Poke]

I knew that, CP. Was faking it for the Mormons' sake.* Wanted to know if THEY knew the right answer.

Yeah... but Jeff isn't playing nice today.

*Also accentuating the un-usability of my custom smilies.

Yes, I thought I was detecting a theme there!

[Sparko]

so noone is going to answer my OP?

how many times can you not do all you can before God keeps you out of heaven?

[pancreasman]

so noone is going to answer my OP?

how many times can you not do all you can before God keeps you out of heaven?

17

[Catholicity]

42 Sparko 42

[ke7ejx]

7x70

[OtherCheek]

OC and Jeff say that they can only get into heaven AFTER ALL they can do (to not sin and to follow the gospel principals, etc)

So does that mean if they don't do everything they can, and slack off, that they will not get into heaven and end up in hell, or at least trailer park heaven?

For instance, OC and Jeff constantly berate us about being rude to them, or insulting them, and all that. I assume that means they think that is wrong. Yet they do it too. Which means that in that case they are not doing all they can do to be polite and remain sinless. So they have failed already. Does that mean they are going to hell now?

Sparko, it took us a while, but Jeff and I have finally realized that this is sometimes more of a "fun and games" forum than a "debate seriously" forum. So please don't get offended if we insult your intelligence---or lack thereof. It's all in good fun, as you know. We're just having some fun like you are.

Now did you intend the question to be a serious one? Or a fun 'n games one?
Because I could ask you a similar question regarding "by grace through faith."
You know, what about your believing and your faith? It is a one and done kind of thing? Or is faith required to endure to the end? Can you be saved without faith? Or is it necessary before you can be saved? Is there a faith meter that divides dangerously low levels from sufficient-to-obtain-heaven level? What if your faith dips below the red line the minute you die? Will you go to hell?

And finally, What if you are wrong in your assumption of what "after all we can do" means?

[OtherCheek]

so noone is going to answer my OP?

how many times can you not do all you can before God keeps you out of heaven?

I think Ke gave a good answer. Til' 70x7.

We're banking on the idea that God forgives those who repent.

Over the last year, I have come to a clearer understanding of what "after all we can do" actually means. And I don't think you are close.

Similarly, after all you can believe, and after all you can have faith, it is still only by the grace of God that you are saved--even after all you can believe.

[Cow Poke]

I think Ke gave a good answer. Til' 70x7.

We're banking on the idea that God forgives those who repent.

Over the last year, I have come to a clearer understanding of what "after all we can do" actually means. And I don't think you are close.

Similarly, after all you can believe, and after all you can have faith, it is still only by the grace of God that you are saved--even after all you can believe.

My faith is built on nothing less
than Jesus' blood and righteousness
I dare not trust the sweetest fame
but wholly lean on Jesus' name

On Christ the solid rock I stand
all other ground is sinking sand
all other ground is sinking sand.

It is the power of Christ, and the power of His resurrection in which I trust, and HIS ability to present me faultless to the Father, clothed in His own righteousness. BECAUSE of that, I serve Him.

[mossrose]

I dare not trust the sweetest frame

[Sparko]

Sparko, it took us a while, but Jeff and I have finally realized that this is sometimes more of a "fun and games" forum than a "debate seriously" forum. So please don't get offended if we insult your intelligence---or lack thereof. It's all in good fun, as you know. We're just having some fun like you are.

Now did you intend the question to be a serious one? Or a fun 'n games one?
Because I could ask you a similar question regarding "by grace through faith."
You know, what about your believing and your faith? It is a one and done kind of thing? Or is faith required to endure to the end? Can you be saved without faith? Or is it necessary before you can be saved? Is there a faith meter that divides dangerously low levels from sufficient-to-obtain-heaven level? What if your faith dips below the red line the minute you die? Will you go to hell?

And finally, What if you are wrong in your assumption of what "after all we can do" means?

Yes I am serious. I used a humorous situation to ask a serious question

If you want to know what I believe, start a thread after answering me here.

[Sparko]

I think Ke gave a good answer. Til' 70x7.

We're banking on the idea that God forgives those who repent.

Over the last year, I have come to a clearer understanding of what "after all we can do" actually means. And I don't think you are close.

Similarly, after all you can believe, and after all you can have faith, it is still only by the grace of God that you are saved--even after all you can believe.

So explain what after al you can do means. Ad back it up with something official from the lds teachings, not just your opinion