The Atonement

[OtherCheek]

So you deny both the Bible, and your own "prophet's" teachings.

No. We do deny the corrupt creeds of Christianity though. Your understanding of the Bible has been wholly tainted and steered wrongly by your adherence to these creeds.

[Cow Poke]

No. We do deny the corrupt creeds of Christianity though. Your understanding of the Bible has been wholly tainted and steered wrongly by your adherence to these creeds.

And yours has been enlightened by a prankster who called himself a prophet.

[Sparko]

how come it's OK for OC to call our creeds "corrupt" and our church "apostate" but he and jeff get upset if we call Smith a con man or claim their teachings are not true?

Them calling us or our beliefs corrupt or apostate doesn't really bother me, but it just seems like they are wanting a double standard.

[Cow Poke]

how come it's OK for OC to call our creeds "corrupt" and our church "apostate" but he and jeff get upset if we call Smith a con man or claim their teachings are not true?

Because THEY are allowed to have persecution complexes, and we're not!

Them calling us or our beliefs corrupt or apostate doesn't really bother me, but it just seems like they are wanting a double standard.

And this surprises you?

[nrajeff]

how come it's OK for OC to call our creeds "corrupt" and our church "apostate" but he and jeff get upset if we call Smith a con man or claim their teachings are not true?

If your premise was correct, then it wouldn't be OK. But since it's YOU who has the double standard, your whole complaint is moot.

I have never gotten upset with your claims that LDS teachings are untrue, since that is an assertion that can be debated to determine how accurate it is.

It's your HISTORY OF PERSONAL INSULTS that has gotten tiresome, stale, and is now even bankrupt of any entertainment value, let alone substantive material for a rational discourse of doctrines.

You want to explore whether your false, paganistic beliefs are somehow superior to LDS ones? Fine. But first, leave the PERSONAL INSULTS at home. STOP sending them through the Internet for the public to see.

THEN you're good to go, as far as I am concerned.

[nrajeff]

Because THEY are allowed to have persecution complexes, and we're not!

No--you're allowed to have your own persecution complex, but apparently you're not allowed to acknowledge it.

[Cow Poke]

No--you're allowed to have your own persecution complex, but apparently you're not allowed to acknowledge it.

How long is this little "everybody is mean to me" drama going to continue, Jeff? Is there no end in sight?

[Sparko]

If your premise was correct, then it wouldn't be OK. But since it's YOU who has the double standard, your whole complaint is moot.

I have never gotten upset with your claims that LDS teachings are untrue, since that is an assertion that can be debated to determine how accurate it is.

It's your HISTORY OF PERSONAL INSULTS that has gotten tiresome, stale, and is now even bankrupt of any entertainment value, let alone substantive material for a rational discourse of doctrines.

You want to explore whether your false, paganistic beliefs are somehow superior to LDS ones? Fine. But first, leave the PERSONAL INSULTS at home. STOP sending them through the Internet for the public to see.

THEN you're good to go, as far as I am concerned.

Remember when you said you wanted to start over and we all agreed to do so and stop the insults, and JB even came up with a contract and then you would not agree to that, and then you insulted Ke7, one of your own, and then all bets were off?

Remember that?

[nrajeff]

How long is this little "everybody is mean to me" drama going to continue, Jeff? Is there no end in sight?

You have the ability and freedom to stop being mean anytime you want to. Unless you're admitting that you are addicted to being mean, in which case kicking the habit could prove to be very difficult.

[nrajeff]

Remember when you said you wanted to start over and we all agreed to do so and stop the insults, and JB even came up with a contract and then you would not agree to that, and then you insulted Ke7, one of your own, and then all bets were off?
Remember that?

I remember giving you and me one more chance to stop the mockery. We all blew that chance. Any other questions?

[Cow Poke]

You have the ability and freedom to stop being mean anytime you want to. Unless you're admitting that you are addicted to being mean, in which case kicking the habit could prove to be very difficult.

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[Sparko]

I remember giving you and me one more chance to stop the mockery. We all blew that chance. Any other questions?

Nope. Have at it DC.

[OtherCheek]

how come it's OK for OC to call our creeds "corrupt" and our church "apostate" but he and jeff get upset if we call Smith a con man or claim their teachings are not true?

Them calling us or our beliefs corrupt or apostate doesn't really bother me, but it just seems like they are wanting a double standard.

I don't generally call your creeds corrupt unless provoked. I know you probably expect higher standards from the LDS than yourself, but...yes, I can be provoked.

[Sparko]

I don't generally call your creeds corrupt unless provoked. I know you probably expect higher standards from the LDS than yourself, but...yes, I can be provoked.

But your leaders have, and right from the beginning.

[Cow Poke]

I don't generally call your creeds corrupt unless provoked.

So, it's IN YOU, lying dormant, ready for the ATTACK!!!!! (I'm being dramatic, OC )

I know you probably expect higher standards from the LDS than yourself, but...yes, I can be provoked.

When you squeeze something, you get what's inside!