Thread: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
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July 4th 2012, 06:13 PM #31
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
Success, the Higgs has been confirmed!!!
Go with the flow the river knows.
Frank Doonan
Hillsborough, NC 27278
Gifts of jade-silk change weapons and war into peace and friendship.
I do not know, therefore I think . . . and everything is in pencil.
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July 5th 2012, 10:09 AM #32
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
YAY, I guess.
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July 5th 2012, 08:39 PM #33
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
My sentiments exactly. OK, this reinforces the Standard Model, but now what? Is there any way to pin these things down and experiment to see how they work? Or are we limited to noticing that there is indeed a boson which falls within the fairly narrow energy range where the Higgs would have to live?
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July 8th 2012, 07:32 PM #34
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July 16th 2012, 01:13 PM #35
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
Now that the Higgs boson has been discovered, what next?
There are two anomalies that are in need of an explanation: a) In the diphoton decay channel, the Higgs boson produces an excess of photons, about one-and-a-half times the rate predicted by the standard model; b) a Higgs boson of about 125 GeV should decay into tau particles about six per cent of the time, but it seems to be doing it a lot less than that. Also, its spin is to be determined. The Higgs is a scalar, and therefore, its spin should be zero.
The LHC will hibernate for an upgrade, and then is expected to run smoothly, more than doubling the total amount of data collected. That could allow the tau, diphoton and spin questions to be settled within a year.
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August 16th 2012, 11:58 AM #36
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
Any scientific theories or hypotheses on the superabundance of photons?
וְאָהַבְתָּ לְרֵעֲךָ כָּמוֹךָ אֲנִי יְהוָה
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August 16th 2012, 05:22 PM #37
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
I believe they exist as energy, not matter.
There is so much negativity that seems to hold the universe together.
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August 16th 2012, 06:37 PM #38
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
Is this meant to explain the first anomaly mentioned by little_monkey, namely, "that the Higgs boson produces an excess of photons, about one-and-a-half times the rate predicted by the standard model"? That's what I was asking about.
Last edited by robrecht; August 16th 2012 at 06:47 PM.
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August 16th 2012, 07:41 PM #39
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
Last edited by OmniSkeptical; August 16th 2012 at 07:50 PM. Reason: grammar
There is so much negativity that seems to hold the universe together.
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August 16th 2012, 10:03 PM #40
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
Here is an interesting excerpt from a column in the most recent Scientific American (September 2012 issue):
Experimenters still need to verify that the new particle is a spin-0 Higgs boson. Next, theyt must test how the Higgs interacts with other particles to high precision. At this writing, its couplings do not quite match predictions, which could be just a statistical fluctuation or a sign of some deeper effect. Meanwhile experimenters have to keep taking data to see whether more than one Higgs boson exists.
These are important tests because theorists have constructed many hypothetical models that put the Standard Model in a broader framework, and many of these predict multiple bosons or diviations from the usual couplings. The models include extra fermions, extra bosons and even extra dimensions of space. The most studied broader framework is supersymmetry, which hypothesizes that each known fermion has an undiscovered partner boson and that each known boson has an undiscovered partner fermion. If supersymmetry is correct, ther is not one Higgs boson but at least five.
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August 17th 2012, 04:54 AM #41
Re: Rumors of the Higgs discovery
HIGS - Hoodlums In Government. (coined by Wilhelm Reich)
They have been around for a long time.
Magellan
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