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  • #61
    Originally posted by Starlight View Post
    I've always said its a stupid policy that wouldn't achieve it's objectives. Most illegals fly in on valid visas and then overstay. And a 1000 mile wall can be climbed over or tunneled under. It's just a huge waste of money that doesn't achieve its main goals. I've got zero problem with the US cutting immigration. But building the Great Wall of Texas is just plain stupid.
    Sigh... must I cite the 90% reduction in crossings at the wall near San Diego AGAIN?
    That's what
    - She

    Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
    - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

    I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
      Sigh... must I cite the 90% reduction in crossings at the wall near San Diego AGAIN?
      Oh wow, you made one point particularly secure compared to other crossings and they diverted to less secure crossings. Wow, that anecdote proves everything!!!

      Why don't you tell us about it several more times? That'll make it less idiotic and more convincing, for sure.
      "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Starlight View Post
        I've always said its a stupid policy that wouldn't achieve it's objectives. Most illegals fly in on valid visas and then overstay. And a 1000 mile wall can be climbed over or tunneled under. It's just a huge waste of money that doesn't achieve its main goals. I've got zero problem with the US cutting immigration. But building the Great Wall of Texas is just plain stupid.
        Typical prog concern troll

        Walls with high tech sensors can work, like Israel shows!! But no, because some small number of people might take trouble to try to get through all of it, it will be failure!!!

        Most illegals fly in on valid visas and then overstay.
        What is evidence for this?
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        • #64
          Originally posted by Starlight View Post
          Here it's the conservative right-wing party that insists on high immigration!
          Sound like they and you defeatist 'but they can always fly in!!!!' progs make good match!
          Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
            Oh wow, you made one point particularly secure compared to other crossings and they diverted to less secure crossings. Wow, that anecdote proves everything!!!

            Why don't you tell us about it several more times? That'll make it less idiotic and more convincing, for sure.
            How about the fact that illegal border crossings are down across the board since Trump was elected? A 53% drop compared to this time last year. A 20-year border patrol veteran called it "nothing short of miraculous".** Do you find that more convincing? Or are you going to continue doing your best impersonation of a stubborn mule?

            I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard about this because the President's successes go largely unreported by the liberal media. I suppose the logic here is that if low-information voters don't know about it, then it didn't happen.


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            • #66
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              Oh wow, you made one point particularly secure compared to other crossings and they diverted to less secure crossings. Wow, that anecdote proves everything!!!
              It's an example of how the wall works successfully. A small sample of what the larger one can accomplish if it is built and staffed properly. Close ALL of the crossings, and they have no alternative one to flood.

              Why don't you tell us about it several more times? That'll make it less idiotic and more convincing, for sure.
              Well, considering you are a stupid moronic foreigner who can't do anything more than read leftist rags, and need to be reminded every time you post on the subject, and I've actually been there and worked on it, and talked to those who patrol it and manage it... I'll continue to do just that. Sometimes your stupidity just needs to be humiliated publically.
              That's what
              - She

              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                Sigh... must I cite the 90% reduction in crossings at the wall near San Diego AGAIN?
                Can't people just go around it?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                  Can't people just go around it?
                  It's 14 miles long, so I'm sure they could. But that's the point. Make it long enough, and there won't be an "around" to go. They would have to go into the ocean or the gulf, and both of those can be patrolled by the Coast Guard rather easily.
                  That's what
                  - She

                  Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                  - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                  I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                  - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                    It's 14 miles long, so I'm sure they could. But that's the point. Make it long enough, and there won't be an "around" to go. They would have to go into the ocean or the gulf, and both of those can be patrolled by the Coast Guard rather easily.
                    That's the point though, right now they're just going around as its more convenient, but what's the evidence that they would try to go over or under if they had no other choice? I'm not sure you can make the point that the wall deter immigration, and then at the same time not be able to show that it actually does it rather than simply making them do it elsewhere.

                    How about people landing with planes?

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                      That's the point though, right now they're just going around as its more convenient, but what's the evidence that they would try to go over or under if they had no other choice? I'm not sure you can make the point that the wall deter immigration, and then at the same time not be able to show that it actually does it rather than simply making them do it elsewhere.

                      How about people landing with planes?
                      Planes are the playthings of the very rich. They're also easy to spot. They're not credible options.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                        Planes are the playthings of the very rich. They're also easy to spot. They're not credible options.
                        I meant passenger planes. Or aren't Mexican tourists allowed in the US?

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                          I meant passenger planes. Or aren't Mexican tourists allowed in the US?
                          Tourists are fine. The wall isn't meant to stop those.

                          Quite a bit of the illegal immigration is from points farther south than Mexico; the country's just a convenient conduit.
                          Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                            That's the point though, right now they're just going around as its more convenient,
                            Not really. The decrease of 90% was not felt in the other crossing areas. And besides, those other, more eastern areas, are much more dangerous to cross than the Tijuana crossing.

                            but what's the evidence that they would try to go over or under if they had no other choice?
                            They have seismic sensors, night vision cameras with motion detectors, and patrols on land, sea, and air. Technological advances are catching the more sophisticated routes.

                            I'm not sure you can make the point that the wall deter immigration, and then at the same time not be able to show that it actually does it rather than simply making them do it elsewhere.
                            Again, if you cut off the entire land passage, it's much simpler to catch them if they try by sea. If you don't give them an elsewhere, they can't cross at that elsewhere.

                            How about people landing with planes?
                            Helicopters patrol the border area. Plus, planes aren't readily available in Mexico like that. Small numbers may be able to sneak in, but it's a far cry from what used to freely flow across the simple wire rope that separated the countries.
                            That's what
                            - She

                            Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                            - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                            I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                            - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                              I meant passenger planes. Or aren't Mexican tourists allowed in the US?
                              That's what customs is for.
                              That's what
                              - She

                              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Leonhard View Post
                                Can't people just go around it?
                                Translation: 'Why put lock on your door??? thieves will just go through window!! So don't bother having lock!!!!'

                                Standard logic from people with Permanent Head Damage!
                                Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.

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