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      Quote Originally posted by Cerebrum123 View Post

      Jeff tries to keep these little drama sessions going to avoid answering questions.
      Yeah, heaven knows I haven't answered any in this thread, right? Well, heaven doesn't know that, but you "know" that and that's all that counts I guess.
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      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Yeah, heaven knows I haven't answered any in this thread, right? Well, heaven doesn't know that, but you "know" that and that's all that counts I guess.
      Try answering the question in post 80. You keep avoiding that one.
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      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      What makes you say this, Jeff? Have you ever been a ward clerk?
      Why YES. YES, I HAVE BEEN and CONTINUE to be. (Note to CP: This is what is called "an answer." Please make note of it.)

      And if yes, have you NEVER given reports to the Bishop?
      I have given a variety of reports to the bishop. But not the ones you're so seemingly obsessed with.

      (I think that counts as another of those "answer" things.)

      And why is this in such disagreement with your Church's explanation of the job of Ward Clerk?
      ANSWER: It's NOT in ANY disagreement with my church's explanation, as I trust you have figured out by now, thanks to my ANSWERS.

      And by the way--and this is not an answer per se but rather some trivia: Your "Why" followed by a premise that is fallacious because it was not shown to be correct, is of the "Why do you continue to abuse your wife?" variety of logical fallacy)
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
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      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
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      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Why YES. YES, I HAVE BEEN and CONTINUE to be.
      Wow... that sounds more like a drag queen than a drama queen.

      (Note to CP: This is what is called "an answer." Please make note of it.)
      You must be in "DRAMA" mode tonight, Jeff. I'm well aware that you have been and are a ward clerk, but that question was not asked in post # 80. Lemme know when you get to that one.
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      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Why YES. YES, I HAVE BEEN and CONTINUE to be. (Note to CP: This is what is called "an answer." Please make note of it.)
      Jeff, seriously, are you drunk or bi-polar or something? We were WAY past this, as you acknowledged here...

      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      I am just now catching up on reading responses and am now reading this one. I acknowledge your "backing away" and of course it is appreciated.
      and now you're doing this drama queen thing.... what's up with that?
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      My lips are sealed. I will not comment. My lips are sealed. No no no. NO NO NO.


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      Quote Originally posted by Xru View Post
      My lips are sealed. I will not comment. My lips are sealed. No no no. NO NO NO.
      You haven't changed a bit! Good to see you around.
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      Quote Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
      Wow... that sounds more like a drag queen than a drama queen.
      I guess I will have to defer to your superior experience base in that dept.

      You must be in "DRAMA" mode tonight, Jeff.
      Did the excessive "glares" in my posts tell you that? Wait, YOU are the one who does that, aren't you?

      I'm well aware that you have been and are a ward clerk, but that question was not asked in post # 80. Lemme know when you get to that one.
      Any chance that you might become well aware that post 80 was part of your "What's the answer? What's the answer?" barrage of re-asking the same question that I just answered?

      Ever see a kid keep bugging his parents for something? "Are we there yet? Are we there yet? How about now? Can I have some candy? When do I get candy? I want candy!"
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
      religious conversation dwells chiefly, or even frequently,
      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
      -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209).

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      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      I guess I will have to defer to your superior experience base in that dept.
      I used to have to arrest them. I don't miss that.
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      Quote Originally posted by nrajeff View Post
      Sparko: "Where? Where? Does it have bacon? Did someone say bacon? Oh wait, that was me who said bacon! Who knows a bacon joke? Did I mention I was a pirate? Did you hear they're gonna make another POTC movie? Did someone remember to give me my ritalin? "
      Why not just answer questions directly instead of dodging around? It makes you look like you know you are wrong and just won't admit it. It hurts your position, Jeff.

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      There's plenty I can criticize Mormonism for. But Mormons do put their money where their mouth is, in a way that shames Christians. If we really believed there were treasures in heaven, we wouldn't hold so tightly to the ones on earth.

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      Quote Originally posted by RBerman View Post
      There's plenty I can criticize Mormonism for. But Mormons do put their money where their mouth is, in a way that shames Christians. If we really believed there were treasures in heaven, we wouldn't hold so tightly to the ones on earth.
      and what makes you think the LDS church is using the tithes for good things? They are one of the most commercially minded churches in the world. They use the tithes to build hotels, temples, shopping malls etc.

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      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      and what makes you think the LDS church is using the tithes for good things? They are one of the most commercially minded churches in the world. They use the tithes to build hotels, temples, shopping malls etc.
      Not only that, they are pulling people away from the real truth about Christ.

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      Quote Originally posted by RBerman View Post
      There's plenty I can criticize Mormonism for. But Mormons do put their money where their mouth is, in a way that shames Christians. If we really believed there were treasures in heaven, we wouldn't hold so tightly to the ones on earth.
      It was quite gracious of you to say that. Thanks.
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      Quote Originally posted by Sparko View Post
      and what makes you think the LDS church is using the tithes for good things?
      That has the potential to be a valid point, albeit from the POV of someone who is prejudiced against the church in question. (The potential would become reality if you had a better understanding of the uses to which tithing donations are and are not used. See end of post for help understanding what I mean)
      It is understandable, for example, that people who are anti-Catholic would feel that the much more vast amounts of money taken in by the Catholic Church are used for evil--even though a neutral observer might see nothing evil in what the money is used for. (E.g., "They spend money on icons, and I personally think that violates the commandment that prohibits making graven images!")

      They are one of the most commercially minded churches in the world.
      Right up there with the Crystal Cathedral and PTL Club, eh?

      They use the tithes to build hotels, temples, shopping malls etc.
      This is the end of my post: You scored 1 out of three correct. Not very good. You need to learn more about your enemy BEFORE you attack it. It will make you seem smarter, or at least less ignorant.
      "I think we may accept it as a rule that whenever a person's
      religious conversation dwells chiefly, or even frequently,
      on the faults of other people's religions, she/he is in a bad condition."
      -C.S. Lewis (Collected Letters Vol. 3 p. 209).

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