Mormons quit church in mass resignation ceremony

[nrajeff]

I am aware of the passage, and of the necessity for it. But I must note that, in a mainstream church, if members of that church made a public display of quitting the church for reasons of disagreement with the doctrine, the members of that church would be quite ... final in their pronunciation.
More to the point, I don't see Jeff as "rejoicing." That was a rather ... untowards accusation on your part.

Thanks for your words. But I confess that when "troublemakers" decide to terminate their membership, a part of me isn't that sad to see them go. It's the kind of sigh of relief a teacher feels when an out-of-control student finally moves away to another school district. : )

[One Bad Pig]

Thanks for your words. But I confess that when "troublemakers" decide to terminate their membership, a part of me isn't that sad to see them go. It's the kind of sigh of relief a teacher feels when an out-of-control student finally moves away to another school district. : )

That's an interesting way to look at the relationship.

[technomage]

Thanks for your words. But I confess that when "troublemakers" decide to terminate their membership, a part of me isn't that sad to see them go. It's the kind of sigh of relief a teacher feels when an out-of-control student finally moves away to another school district. : )

I withdraw my comment about CP's statements being "untoward."

[Cow Poke]

I withdraw my comment about CP's statements being "untoward."

Thanks... I started to explain what I MEANT to say, but it would only matter to those who really cared.

I'll go with OC's comment --- it was, most likely, just a publicity stunt.

[technomage]

it was, most likely, just a publicity stunt.

You don't leave something that fundamental to your life (Mormon or mainstream) for the sake of a "publicity stunt." These are people with sincere feelings--I hope we can agree upon that, whether or not we disagree about the rightness or wrongness of their action.

[Cow Poke]

You don't leave something that fundamental to your life (Mormon or mainstream) for the sake of a "publicity stunt." These are people with sincere feelings--I hope we can agree upon that, whether or not we disagree about the rightness or wrongness of their action.

Tech... are you just looking for a battle?

I'm agreeing with OC, because, if these people were genuine in their concerns, they could have gone through proper channels. I'm dealing, in real life, with two Mormon families who are very disillusioned with their Church through matters not of their own making, and they are honestly trying to resolve things and "stay".

The people in the case cited are upset about gay marriage --- something that is not going to change any time soon in the Mormon Church. From the article...

After gathering in the park, participants hiked a half-mile up nearby Ensign Peak, scaled in 1847 by church President Brigham Young to survey the spot where his Latter-day Saints would build a city.

At the top, those gathered gave three loud shouts of "Freedom," cheered, clapped and hugged.

It doesn't sound like they were leaving something "fundamental to their lives"... it sounds more like they had a bone to pick, and they "went public".

(SHEEEESH, I sound like I'm defending the MORMONS!)

[nrajeff]

Tech... are you just looking for a battle?
I'm agreeing with OC, because, if these people were genuine in their concerns, they could have gone through proper channels. I'm dealing, in real life, with two Mormon families who are very disillusioned with their Church through matters not of their own making, and they are honestly trying to resolve things and "stay".
The people in the case cited are upset about gay marriage --- something that is not going to change any time soon in the Mormon Church. From the article...

After gathering in the park, participants hiked a half-mile up nearby Ensign Peak, scaled in 1847 by church President Brigham Young to survey the spot where his Latter-day Saints would build a city.
At the top, those gathered gave three loud shouts of "Freedom," cheered, clapped and hugged.

It doesn't sound like they were leaving something "fundamental to their lives"... it sounds more like they had a bone to pick, and they "went public".
(SHEEEESH, I sound like I'm defending the MORMONS!)

Yeah, it does. Here is your payment, as agreed:

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[technomage]

Tech... are you just looking for a battle?

CP, they have a phrase to describe people in my emotional situation who go looking for a fight--that phrase being "right royal idiot."

I'm agreeing with OC, because, if these people were genuine in their concerns, they could have gone through proper channels.

In the LDS Church, just as in many mainstream Christian churches, there are no "proper channels." It's not a topic you folks are even equipped to handle, save by bundling the offending behavior away under the category of "sin."

I feel for their plight, though I must admit I get tired of turning away former Christians (mainstream or Mormon) who try to come to Wicca mad at their former church. At the same time, I feel for the plight of the Christians who feel that such behavior is "sin"--one thing we will agree on is that we can be empathetic with another person's pain even if we do not agree with their beliefs.

Is there a solution? I do not know ... but this is a bleeding wound in our nation, one that's not going to go away any time soon.

[Cow Poke]

CP, they have a phrase to describe people in my emotional situation who go looking for a fight--that phrase being "right royal idiot."

I don't understand, but that's OK.

In the LDS Church, just as in many mainstream Christian churches, there are no "proper channels." It's not a topic you folks are even equipped to handle, save by bundling the offending behavior away under the category of "sin."

"you folks"? I don't think you know what you're talking about, Tech... my Church is all about reclaiming people, and while we certainly do preach against "sin", we tend to be a magnet to the "down and outters" and people who don't "fit in" in "mainstream churches". My Biker Dude story kinda gives an indication of that.

I feel for their plight, though I must admit I get tired of turning away former Christians (mainstream or Mormon) who try to come to Wicca mad at their former church. At the same time, I feel for the plight of the Christians who feel that such behavior is "sin"--one thing we will agree on is that we can be empathetic with another person's pain even if we do not agree with their beliefs.

Jesus met people at the point of their need, Tech... our Church models that. Over 50% of our Church budget goes to mission causes, relief, and assistance. That's in our bylaws.

Is there a solution? I do not know ... but this is a bleeding wound in our nation, one that's not going to go away any time soon.

Well, "us folks" are actively engaged.

[technomage]

"you folks"? I don't think you know what you're talking about, Tech...

No, I do understand ... I'm just not able to phrase things like I want. It makes sense in my head, none when I post.

Probably an indication that I need to go to sleep.

[nrajeff]

TMage, I hope your housing dilemma improves really soon. Being homeless would take a huge toll on me I think.

[Bill the Cat]

How does that differ from Christian organizations that practice shunning, in accord with 1 Cor 5:11 or Gal 6?

[technomage]

I'm sending you a bill for cleaning the coffee out of my laptop.

[Xru]

I agree mage . . . that's a good one.

I wish I had the video of the demons being exorcised. That was really funny. I think it had to do with the fuss I was making once about atheists not having a sense of humor. Anyone remember that one?

[master_mormon]

People leave the LDS church every day. People have left God since the days of Adam. The Book of Mormon is filled with examples of people leaving the Church for various reasons and their fate is also stated. All we had here is basically 150 or so drama kings and queens needing to get together to satisfy some need they had in leaving. I will say that those who leave their "churches" and "religions" ect to become LDS converts don't have to engage in such actions. I can't think of any examples of 100 LDS converts gathering together to renounce their former protestant views. They seem to make the transition without too much difficulty. Almost like it really does not matter what they were anymore but are looking ahead rather in the past. I would bet that a large number of these people felt good at the moment but they are still looking back after the day ended.