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      THE OLD TESTAMENT and ME

      THE OLD TESTAMENT and ME

      The Hebrew Bible, called The Old Testament by Christians, is an extraordinarily difficult sequence of books.(1) This difficulty, too easily underestimated, is greater now than it ever was, partly because no contemporary reader, however specialized, shares in the psychology of the original readers and writers of The Bible. The first millennium in which anyone read any of the words in any of the books from 1000 B.C. to the time of Christ or, perhaps more accurately, 600 B.C. to 400 A.D.(2)

      My first memories of The Old Testament come from Bible readings in grade six when I was 11 and my mother reading passages from little booklets from the Unity School of Christianity as early as the mid-1950s. Although some of the quotations had a broad ethical appeal to me even as a boy in my late childhood and early teens, I found the stories abstruse and distant: goats, sheep, tribes, and curious names like Balthazar and Nebuchadnezzar. They all occupied another universe far removed from my little town of 5000 in Ontario in that post-WW2 world of the 1950s. This distance existed then, as it does now, nearly 60 years later.

      My individual understanding of The Bible, my biblical interpretations, rely primarily at the age of nearly 70 on my experience of nearly 60 years of intimate association with the Baha’i Faith. My interpretations and those of the Baha’i teachings are provocative, if nothing else. But I have always found there to be a vast distance from the psychic universe of the biblical writers beginning as early as, say, 900 B.C.(2) and the contemporary society that is my world. I know I have lots of company; indeed I rarely meet anyone who actually reads The Old Testament any more.

      However abstruse the language of biblical prophecy and eschatology, the prophets of The Old Testament, I believe, were given a foreknowledge of the events of our times in their visions, visions which I’m sure they hardly understood themselves. Still, there lies a sure presentation of the times we are living-through, as long as one does not take those prophecies literally.

      Yahweh's choice of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and their descendants as part of the Chosen People story was a permanent decision, intended to prevail into a time without boundaries, into our time.-Ron Price with thanks to 1Harold Bloom, “Prose and Poetry,” in The New York Times, 17 October, 1982: a review of Dan Jacobson’s THE STORY OF THE STORIES: The Chosen People and Its God, and 2the final editor, or redactor, after the return from the Babylonian Exile in the 6th century BC, put all the books of The Old Testament into something like their present form.3

      When this review appeared in(1)
      The New York Times I had just
      arrived in Australia’s Northern
      Territory & the heat of summer
      was just beginning to make me
      run for cover to air-conditioning
      in my office, home and the cool
      air of the car. The Old Testament
      was on my universe’s periphery.

      There it had always been in heat and
      cold since those first stories when I
      was in grade six in that little town in
      Ontario’s Golden Horseshoe where
      everyone I knew was Catholic or Jew
      or Protestant, or nothing; yes, mostly
      nothing and there they have remained
      with that Old Testament far removed
      from everyone’s everyday life. Still…

      I have time now to try to get into it in
      this the evening of my life; however
      complex and abstruse it may be, I want
      to make-up for the decades when it had
      to remain far out on my life’s periphery.

      1 Harold Bloom, “Prose and Poetry,” in The New York Times, 17 October, 1982: a review of Dan Jacobson’s THE STORY OF THE STORIES: The Chosen People and Its God.
      3 See Frank Kermode, “God Speaks Through His Women,” in The New York Times, 23 September 1990: a review of Harold Bloom’s The Book of J.

      Ron Price
      5 July 2012
      Last edited by RonPrice; July 5th 2012 at 02:36 AM. Reason: to add some words
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      THE OLD TESTAMENT and ME

      The Hebrew Bible, called The Old Testament by Christians, is an extraordinarily difficult sequence of books.(1) This difficulty, too easily underestimated, is greater now than it ever was, partly because no contemporary reader, however specialized, shares in the psychology of the original readers and writers of The Bible. The first millennium in which anyone read any of the words in any of the books from 1000 B.C. to the time of Christ or, perhaps more accurately, 600 B.C. to 400 A.D.(2)

      My first memories of The Old Testament come from Bible readings in grade six when I was 11 and my mother reading passages from little booklets from the Unity School of Christianity as early as the mid-1950s. Although some of the quotations had a broad ethical appeal to me even as a boy in my late childhood and early teens, I found the stories abstruse and distant: goats, sheep, tribes, and curious names like Balthazar and Nebuchadnezzar. They all occupied another universe far removed from my little town of 5000 in Ontario in that post-WW2 world of the 1950s. This distance existed then, as it does now, nearly 60 years later.

      My individual understanding of The Bible, my biblical interpretations, rely primarily at the age of nearly 70 on my experience of nearly 60 years of intimate association with the Baha’i Faith. My interpretations and those of the Baha’i teachings are provocative, if nothing else. But I have always found there to be a vast distance from the psychic universe of the biblical writers beginning as early as, say, 900 B.C.(2) and the contemporary society that is my world. I know I have lots of company; indeed I rarely meet anyone who actually reads The Old Testament any more.

      However abstruse the language of biblical prophecy and eschatology, the prophets of The Old Testament, I believe, were given a foreknowledge of the events of our times in their visions, visions which I’m sure they hardly understood themselves. Still, there lies a sure presentation of the times we are living-through, as long as one does not take those prophecies literally.

      Yahweh's choice of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and their descendants as part of the Chosen People story was a permanent decision, intended to prevail into a time without boundaries, into our time.-Ron Price with thanks to 1Harold Bloom, “Prose and Poetry,” in The New York Times, 17 October, 1982: a review of Dan Jacobson’s THE STORY OF THE STORIES: The Chosen People and Its God, and 2the final editor, or redactor, after the return from the Babylonian Exile in the 6th century BC, put all the books of The Old Testament into something like their present form.3

      When this review appeared in(1)
      The New York Times I had just
      arrived in Australia’s Northern
      Territory & the heat of summer
      was just beginning to make me
      run for cover to air-conditioning
      in my office, home and the cool
      air of the car. The Old Testament
      was on my universe’s periphery.

      There it had always been in heat and
      cold since those first stories when I
      was in grade six in that little town in
      Ontario’s Golden Horseshoe where
      everyone I knew was Catholic or Jew
      or Protestant, or nothing; yes, mostly
      nothing and there they have remained
      with that Old Testament far removed
      from everyone’s everyday life. Still…

      I have time now to try to get into it in
      this the evening of my life; however
      complex and abstruse it may be, I want
      to make-up for the decades when it had
      to remain far out on my life’s periphery.

      1 Harold Bloom, “Prose and Poetry,” in The New York Times, 17 October, 1982: a review of Dan Jacobson’s THE STORY OF THE STORIES: The Chosen People and Its God.
      3 See Frank Kermode, “God Speaks Through His Women,” in The New York Times, 23 September 1990: a review of Harold Bloom’s The Book of J.

      Ron Price
      5 July 2012
      Hi Ron!!

      Nice post!! I share your view of the OT, and will follow if anyone responds. The OT is probably the most difficult of a collection of scripture to interpretation in the modern text, and understanding 1st century world of Palistine.

      I noticed the poem, is it yours I have started a poetry thread in the Literature section. Take a look.
      Go with the flow the river knows.

      Frank Doonan
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