Jesus in the Old Testament

[Racer X]

Moved this post from a previous thread, hmm is this some weird sort of plagiarism?

Jesus is inseparable from the Old Testament and you find that his words are a fulfillment from it's very pages. Consider what he said concerning salvation, that one must be "born again." Why would Jesus use such a strange statement, which even confused Nicodemus a Pharisee and ruler of the Jews, unless somehow it's meaning could be found in the OT.

Take a look at what's buried in the pages of the OT concerning being born again or to put it another way, second birth. First there is Cain and Abel. Cain's (firstborn) offering of the works of his hands was not acceptable to the Lord, because we cannot earn our salvation thru works. But Abel's (second birth) offering of his flock was pleasing to the Lord, which points to Jesus' sacrifice on the cross. It's a free gift but you must be born again to receive it.

Then we have Abraham who's first born was Ishmael, but the promise was to be through Isaac, second birth, "God said, "No, but Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac. I will establish my covenant with him as an everlasting covenant for his offspring after him."

Next we have Isaac's two sons Esau and Jacob, which scripture states in Malachi "Is not Esau Jacob's brother?" declares the LORD. "Yet I have loved Jacob but Esau I have hated." The promise goes to Jacob, second birth. You must be born again to please God.

Another one being the twins of Tamar in Genesis 38, "And when she was in labor, one put out a hand, and the midwife took and tied a scarlet thread on his hand, saying, "This one came out first." But as he drew back his hand, behold, his brother came out. And she said, "What a breach you have made for yourself!" Therefore his name was called Perez. Afterward his brother came out with the scarlet thread on his hand, and his name was called Zerah." Again we see that Zerah being the second born had the scarlet thread, which in itself has great significance concerning salvation. You must be born again (second birth) to have the scarlet thread to be saved.

All this and more concerning the gospel message found in the book of Genesis.

One last example concerning second birth is not found in Genesis but Exodus. Moses represents the law and the law cannot save, only reveal your sin. The first generation (firstborn) led by Moses were not allowed into the promise land. It took Joshua, Jesus' name in Hebrew, to lead the second generation (second birth) into the promised land. Jesus had a profound understanding of the only scriptures he knew, being the Old Testament.

"Jesus answered him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."

[micah719]

How about the appearance of The Angel of The Lord to Samson's parents (Judges 13)?

Jdg 13:18 And the angelH4397 of the LORDH3068 saidH559 unto him, WhyH4100 askestH7592 thou thusH2088 after my name,H8034 seeing itH1931 is secret?H6383

H6383
פּליא פּלאי
pil'ı̂y pâlı̂y'
pil-ee', paw-lee'
From H6381; remarkable: - secret, wonderful.

Isa 9:6 ForH3588 unto us a childH3206 is born,H3205 unto us a sonH1121 is given:H5414 and the governmentH4951 shall be uponH5921 his shoulder:H7926 and his nameH8034 shall beH1961 calledH7121 Wonderful,H6382 Counsellor,H3289 The mightyH1368 God,H410 The everlastingH5703 Father,H1 The PrinceH8269 of Peace.H7965

H6382
פּלא
pele'
peh'-leh
From H6381; a miracle: - marvellous thing, wonder (-ful, -fully).



The bit where Manoah gets worried is touching....

Jdg 13:22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.
Jdg 13:23 But his wife said unto him, If the LORD were pleased to kill us, he would not have received a burnt offering and a meat offering at our hands, neither would he have shewed us all these things, nor would as at this time have told us such things as these.

[Moksha]

Grasping.

[micah719]

He is all the way through it....

Luk 24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

[Moksha]

I was talking about the supposed "Born Again" references Racer posted.