Lucretius' July 2012 Screwballs Derail on Homosexuality

[Dee Dee Warren]

Regardless of what friends or family members you have, you're still hurting them by denying them marriage equality and condemning their innate sexuality as sinful.

This is one of the most non reflective posts I have read in a long time.

If I had a friend who was a pedophile, would I be harming them if I condemned their innate sexuality as sinful?

Does it matter to you if something is true or if it is nice?

Should we condemn ANYTHING as sinful?

I doubt you will actually answer these questions.

[Dee Dee Warren]

Regardless of what friends or family members you have, you're still hurting them by denying them marriage equality and condemning their innate sexuality as sinful.

Do you think that marriage should be just two people?

[Chrawnus]

Do you really want to get rid of him that quickly?

Someone who hasn't been around here very long won't appreciate the nuances of TWeb's moderation. Getting him modded for this will seem more like a cheap shot than a reasonable response to what he's arguing.

1). He has a responsibility to learn and be aware of the rules of this forum. Him being new is no excuse for this.

2). People should be more concerned over how things really are, rather than how they seem.

3). Some people simply can't be reasoned with.

[Cerebrum123]

Do you really want to get rid of him that quickly?

Someone who hasn't been around here very long won't appreciate the nuances of TWeb's moderation. Getting him modded for this will seem more like a cheap shot than a reasonable response to what he's arguing.

If he is accusing me of lying without any proof, then he is breaking the rules, I don't think that should slide by simply because of the fact that you want to tear his arguments to pieces.

[Lucretius]

This is one of the most non reflective posts I have read in a long time.

If I had a friend who was a pedophile, would I be harming them if I condemned their innate sexuality as sinful?

Does it matter to you if something is true or if it is nice?

Should we condemn ANYTHING as sinful?

I doubt you will actually answer these questions.

A child cannot consent to sex.

As to polygamy, hey, your God condones it in a large part of the Bible, how can you call it sinful?

I am not accusing anyone of being a liar.

[Thersites]

If he is accusing me of lying without any proof, then he is breaking the rules, I don't think that should slide by simply because of the fact that you want to tear his arguments to pieces.

It's not whether I want to, it's whether you want to. If you get him modded, he may well get mad and disappear, and that's the end of the discussion.

Of course, there are plenty of people around here with whom you could have an entirely reasonable discussion about these issues, so do what you want with Lucretius.

[Chrawnus]

I am not accusing anyone of being a liar.

So then you're conceding that Cerebrum123 could very well have gay friends?

[Lucretius]

So then you're conceding that Cerebrum123 could very well have gay friends?

Yes but he is still hurting them by his actions.

[Cerebrum123]

A child cannot consent to sex.

As to polygamy, hey, your God condones it in a large part of the Bible, how can you call it sinful?

I am not accusing anyone of being a liar.

Um, no the Bible does not "condone" polygamy, but reports it, not everything reported in the Bible is condoned. Since you are not accusing me of lying, then I will not report you, but you should be more careful on how you phrase your posts.

Yes but he is still hurting them by his actions.

Can you show me HOW I am hurting them?

[Dee Dee Warren]

A child cannot consent to sex.

As to polygamy, hey, your God condones it in a large part of the Bible, how can you call it sinful?

I am not accusing anyone of being a liar.

As suspected you didn't answer the questions.

I will ask them again,

If I had a friend who was a pedophile, would I be harming them if I condemned their innate sexuality as sinful?

I didn't ask if I should change the definition of marriage to allow to marry a child. I ask what I asked. Please answer.

Additionally,

A child cannot consent to sex.

That statement is very hurtful to those who disagree with you. What gives you the right to hurt them like that?

You ignored these two questions:

Does it matter to you if something is true or if it is nice?

Should we condemn ANYTHING as sinful?

And on my question of whether marriage should just be two people, you dodged. Please answer the question and show that you are at least THINKING.

[Dee Dee Warren]

Yes but he is still hurting them by his actions.

If Cerebrum has friends that are rapists would he be hurting them by calling the police?

[ApologiaPhoenix]

Yeah you guys don't tone LGBT people anymore, you just bully them and deny them equality, driving them to despair and suicide (the suicide rate is astronomical compared to straights).

Let me tell you the rights of a heterosexual in America with marriage.

A heterosexual can marry someone of the opposite sex.
They can marry only one person.
They must marry someone of age.
There must be consent.
They cannot marry a close relative.

Now here are a homosexual's rights.

A homosexual can marry someone of the opposite sex.
They can marry only one person.
They must marry someone of age.
There must be consent.
They cannot marry a close relative.

In order to say that equality is being denied, you must show a difference. Can you tell me how those two lists of rights are different?

[Lucretius]

Do any of you find it the least bit ridiculous that a supreme God with infinite power is so incredibly concerned about what human beings do with their genitals? In fact, it is one of his top priorities! He spends page after page on this topic on the Old Testament.

[rogue06]

Hrrrumpf


Who moved this? 57 posts is just the size I like to move 'em at and I wasn't even given a chance

[Teluog]

As to polygamy, hey, your God condones it in a large part of the Bible, how can you call it sinful?

Because it is labelled as adultery throughout all of the Bible. When God gives a commandment, He still allows you to go against it.