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July 21st 2012, 11:00 AM #1
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Male - MormonOur Culture's Love Affair with Violence.
Why do so many people in this country and others crave violence? It's almost like an addiction. It used to be that the violence you would see in the movies was not much more than fisticuffs and we have grown way past that now.
"Behold, I am Jesus Christ, whom the prophets testified shall come into the world.
And behold, I am the light and the life of the world; and I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in c\taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning."
(3 Nephi 11:10-11)
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July 21st 2012, 11:17 AM #2
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Male - Non-theistRe: Our Culture's Love Affair with Violence.
Wow, we went from violence to pornography in all of two posts.
What the world thinks the most valuable exhibition of the Dao is to be found in books. But books are only a collection of words. Words have what is valuable in them - what is valuable in words is the ideas they convey. But those ideas are a sequence of something else - and what that something else is cannot be conveyed by words. When the world, because of the value which it attaches to words, commits them to books, that for which it so values them may not deserve to be valued - because that which it values is not what is really valuable. Thus it is that what we look at and can see is (only) the outward form and colour, and what we listen to and can hear is (only) names and sounds. Alas! that men of the world should think that form and colour, name and sound, should be sufficient to give them the real nature of the Dao. The form and colour, the name and sound, are certainly not sufficient to convey its real nature; and so it is that 'the wise do not speak and those who do speak are not wise.' How should the world know that real nature?
--Zuangzi, Way of Heaven
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July 21st 2012, 12:21 PM #5
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July 21st 2012, 02:33 PM #6
Re: Our Culture's Love Affair with Violence.
Love the truth; follow it no matter where it leads; embrace it no matter how much it costs; accept no substitutes; and be satisfied with nothing less than the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
The Lord Jesus Christ is the Perfect Embodiment of the Truth; Love and follow Him!
"Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me." (John 14:6)
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July 21st 2012, 04:09 PM #7
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There are mass murderers in every culture. There have been mass murderers in every culture and there will be mass murderers in every culture. Why do annoying people have to use every massacre as an excuse to engage in some manufactured pontification before going back to not really caring like they do most days?
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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July 21st 2012, 04:12 PM #8
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The instinct to have sex, unlike the instinct to grab a shotgun, assault rifle and pistol, dress yourself up like the joker, throw on full body armor, rig your apartment with explosives, toss smoke bombs in a theater and shoot 70+ people, including a baby at point blank range, is quite common.
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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July 21st 2012, 04:36 PM #9
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July 21st 2012, 05:43 PM #10
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Have you the brain worms?!
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July 21st 2012, 06:04 PM #11
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An image of a breast will add to the mountain of sexualized images many of us are bombarded with every day.
"Do not cause anyone to stumble, whether Jews, Greeks or the church of God" ~ St Peter
"Boobies! Boobies boobies boobies!" ~ St yxboom
I wasn't promoting an agenda anymore than you were. I countered a stupid point made in a stupid post that happened to have your name attached to it.Of course the tragedy in Colorado would have been a waste unless you could use to promote your agenda. Feel free to have the last word."Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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July 21st 2012, 07:22 PM #12
Re: Our Culture's Love Affair with Violence.
Death is usually pretty integral in some people's lives. I cannot conjure up a universal answer, but I was taught by a professor who is also a Criminologist, and he has researched greatly on the questions of death and culture in various contexts from ancient Romans and Hebrews to Modern Latinamerica. Where I am from, death has practically become a very normalized deal to the point that it stops being shocking (although not necessarily stops being saddening or angering). Regrettably tragic.
Love affair is too light of a description with how the deal is where I live (returning from a book fair, my family spotted a dead corpse thrown in the street today as of this writing). This article may be of interest to you. Martinez-Amador seldoms writes in English, he is a man incredibly acquainted with criminal violence, especially of the type involving organized crime (If you can understand Spanish, I recommend looking up his articles, he has much to say regarding death and culture).
Fair warning, the article is somewhat explicit in description terminologies, but nothing in the realm of crude tastes.
http://www.insightcrime.org/insight-...rug-traffickerLast edited by Andius; July 21st 2012 at 07:38 PM.

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July 22nd 2012, 01:04 AM #13
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"The Lord examines the righteous, but the wicked, those who love violence, he hates with a passion [literally, 'his soul hates']." (Ps. 11:5)
This seems to come right out and say you're wicked if you love violence--and in strong terms. You know, what got me to a place of determination to reject that "salt lust"1 was "The Dark Knight" with its classic performance of Heath Ledger showing what a raw love of violence looks like.
Let's forswear that stuff.
Grace and peace,
Lee
[1] C.S. Lewis' term in another context, referring to witchcraft."What I pray of you is, to keep your eye upon Him, for that is everything." (J.B. Stoney)
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July 22nd 2012, 11:12 AM #14
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I thought boom was being sarcastic?
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July 22nd 2012, 11:17 AM #15
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"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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