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August 6th 2012, 11:23 AM #271
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Female - ChristianRe: Why Evolution Utterly Destroys Christianity
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August 6th 2012, 05:53 PM #272
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Male - Non-theistRe: Why Evolution Utterly Destroys Christianity
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What the world thinks the most valuable exhibition of the Dao is to be found in books. But books are only a collection of words. Words have what is valuable in them - what is valuable in words is the ideas they convey. But those ideas are a sequence of something else - and what that something else is cannot be conveyed by words. When the world, because of the value which it attaches to words, commits them to books, that for which it so values them may not deserve to be valued - because that which it values is not what is really valuable. Thus it is that what we look at and can see is (only) the outward form and colour, and what we listen to and can hear is (only) names and sounds. Alas! that men of the world should think that form and colour, name and sound, should be sufficient to give them the real nature of the Dao. The form and colour, the name and sound, are certainly not sufficient to convey its real nature; and so it is that 'the wise do not speak and those who do speak are not wise.' How should the world know that real nature?
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August 7th 2012, 06:35 AM #273
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August 7th 2012, 09:15 AM #274
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August 7th 2012, 09:40 AM #275
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What the world thinks the most valuable exhibition of the Dao is to be found in books. But books are only a collection of words. Words have what is valuable in them - what is valuable in words is the ideas they convey. But those ideas are a sequence of something else - and what that something else is cannot be conveyed by words. When the world, because of the value which it attaches to words, commits them to books, that for which it so values them may not deserve to be valued - because that which it values is not what is really valuable. Thus it is that what we look at and can see is (only) the outward form and colour, and what we listen to and can hear is (only) names and sounds. Alas! that men of the world should think that form and colour, name and sound, should be sufficient to give them the real nature of the Dao. The form and colour, the name and sound, are certainly not sufficient to convey its real nature; and so it is that 'the wise do not speak and those who do speak are not wise.' How should the world know that real nature?
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Female - ChristianRe: Why Evolution Utterly Destroys Christianity
Awe, so you're going to throw up Bible verses, as some sort of passive-aggressive attack upon me, but get on me when I respond to them. How lovely and yet you guys wonder why I treat you guys the way I do (and yes, I am assuming the worst about you since you guys all seem to want to do the same to me, don't like it, I would suggest you don't start with that assumption)?
Love is not blind; that is the last thing it is. Love is bound; and the more it is bound the less it is blind. GK Chesterton, Orthodoxy
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August 7th 2012, 09:00 PM #278
Re: Why Evolution Utterly Destroys Christianity
I love watching Christians use scripture to rationalist being a • Edited by a Moderator •
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August 7th 2012, 10:10 PM #279
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August 7th 2012, 10:19 PM #280
Re: Why Evolution Utterly Destroys Christianity
"First understand, then criticize! Not the other way round." - Per Ahlberg, TR
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August 7th 2012, 10:43 PM #281
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Go with the flow the river knows.
Frank Doonan
Hillsborough, NC 27278
Gifts of jade-silk change weapons and war into peace and friendship.
I do not know, therefore I think . . . and everything is in pencil.
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August 7th 2012, 10:50 PM #282
Re: Why Evolution Utterly Destroys Christianity
Back to the subject of the thread. I believe the headliner is like something from rag journalism. There is a point though to the significant problem the majority of Christians outright deny the science of evolution, and a very large percentage of the others accept it only partially and conditionally. The percentages who accept evolution is also proportional to education, degree level, and profession, as well as religious belief. Outside Christianity, only extreme beliefs in Hinduism like Hare Krishna (including John Lennon), and some sects of Islam, the rest of the world and 99.9% of the scientists in the fields related to evolution completely accept it without reservation.
If there is not a very real problem here, enlighten me why the rejection of evolution is so closely related to religious belief, and ah . . . level of education.
Waiting . . .Go with the flow the river knows.
Frank Doonan
Hillsborough, NC 27278
Gifts of jade-silk change weapons and war into peace and friendship.
I do not know, therefore I think . . . and everything is in pencil.
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August 8th 2012, 12:45 AM #283
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Your point is valid. Evolution is hard for Christians to stomach. On the surface, even a bit below the surface, it seems contrary to what we believe to be true about how and why God made us. It is also used and couched by many unbelievers as evidence the Bible is not true, as evidence God did not make man in His own image, as evidence there is no need for God in explaining the origins of ourselves and the universe. I have been able to come to terms with it, but if the evidence for it were not so strong, I would not have. It is not the first conclusion one would arrive at reading scripture

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August 8th 2012, 01:41 AM #284
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