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      Yeah, but isn't she cute? Just like a Potty Patty doll, just poke the button and it excretes. Over and over.
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      Re: Why Evolution Utterly Destroys Christianity

      For whoever may be interested:

      Matthew 5:21,22

      21 “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

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      What the world thinks the most valuable exhibition of the Dao is to be found in books. But books are only a collection of words. Words have what is valuable in them - what is valuable in words is the ideas they convey. But those ideas are a sequence of something else - and what that something else is cannot be conveyed by words. When the world, because of the value which it attaches to words, commits them to books, that for which it so values them may not deserve to be valued - because that which it values is not what is really valuable. Thus it is that what we look at and can see is (only) the outward form and colour, and what we listen to and can hear is (only) names and sounds. Alas! that men of the world should think that form and colour, name and sound, should be sufficient to give them the real nature of the Dao. The form and colour, the name and sound, are certainly not sufficient to convey its real nature; and so it is that 'the wise do not speak and those who do speak are not wise.' How should the world know that real nature?

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      Quote Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
      For whoever may be interested:

      Matthew 5:21,22

      21 “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

      © source where applicable

      Assumption of anger noted and dismissed as such, since there is no anger here at all. Got anything else to throw up that isn't true?
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      Quote Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
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      Quote Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
      Assumption of anger noted and dismissed as such, since there is no anger here at all. Got anything else to throw up that isn't true?
      The second statement is highly ironic in light of the first one.


      Regardless, I know you aren't interested, and the Bible verse wasn't aimed at or intended for you. Hence my opening.
      What the world thinks the most valuable exhibition of the Dao is to be found in books. But books are only a collection of words. Words have what is valuable in them - what is valuable in words is the ideas they convey. But those ideas are a sequence of something else - and what that something else is cannot be conveyed by words. When the world, because of the value which it attaches to words, commits them to books, that for which it so values them may not deserve to be valued - because that which it values is not what is really valuable. Thus it is that what we look at and can see is (only) the outward form and colour, and what we listen to and can hear is (only) names and sounds. Alas! that men of the world should think that form and colour, name and sound, should be sufficient to give them the real nature of the Dao. The form and colour, the name and sound, are certainly not sufficient to convey its real nature; and so it is that 'the wise do not speak and those who do speak are not wise.' How should the world know that real nature?

      --Zuangzi, Way of Heaven

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      You really don't have a life, do you shuny?
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      Quote Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
      The second statement is highly ironic in light of the first one.

      Regardless, I know you aren't interested, and the Bible verse wasn't aimed at or intended for you. Hence my opening.
      Awe, so you're going to throw up Bible verses, as some sort of passive-aggressive attack upon me, but get on me when I respond to them. How lovely and yet you guys wonder why I treat you guys the way I do (and yes, I am assuming the worst about you since you guys all seem to want to do the same to me, don't like it, I would suggest you don't start with that assumption)?
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      I love watching Christians use scripture to rationalist being a Edited by a Moderator
      Last edited by T-Shirt Ninja; August 9th 2012 at 10:41 PM.
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      Quote Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
      You really don't have a life, do you shuny?
      You're really clueless aren't you.
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      Your really clueless aren't you.
      She does know how to spell "you're" though.

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      She does know how to spell "you're" though.

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      Back to the subject of the thread. I believe the headliner is like something from rag journalism. There is a point though to the significant problem the majority of Christians outright deny the science of evolution, and a very large percentage of the others accept it only partially and conditionally. The percentages who accept evolution is also proportional to education, degree level, and profession, as well as religious belief. Outside Christianity, only extreme beliefs in Hinduism like Hare Krishna (including John Lennon), and some sects of Islam, the rest of the world and 99.9% of the scientists in the fields related to evolution completely accept it without reservation.

      If there is not a very real problem here, enlighten me why the rejection of evolution is so closely related to religious belief, and ah . . . level of education.

      Waiting . . .
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      Quote Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
      Back to the subject of the thread. I believe the headliner is like something from rag journalism. There is a point though to the significant problem the majority of Christians outright deny the science of evolution, and a very large percentage of the others accept it only partially and conditionally. The percentages who accept evolution is also proportional to education, degree level, and profession, as well as religious belief. Outside Christianity, only extreme beliefs in Hinduism like Hare Krishna (including John Lennon), and some sects of Islam, the rest of the world and 99.9% of the scientists in the fields related to evolution completely accept it without reservation.

      If there is not a very real problem here, enlighten me why the rejection of evolution is so closely related to religious belief, and ah . . . level of education.

      Waiting . . .
      Your point is valid. Evolution is hard for Christians to stomach. On the surface, even a bit below the surface, it seems contrary to what we believe to be true about how and why God made us. It is also used and couched by many unbelievers as evidence the Bible is not true, as evidence God did not make man in His own image, as evidence there is no need for God in explaining the origins of ourselves and the universe. I have been able to come to terms with it, but if the evidence for it were not so strong, I would not have. It is not the first conclusion one would arrive at reading scripture


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      It is not the first conclusion one would arrive at reading scripture
      Is it a conclusion one can legitimately make from reading scripture?

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      like Hare Krishna (including John Lennon)
      You mean George Harrison.


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