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"wow" as in good or bad?"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr. -
That might be logical, but you're being far too charitable.Originally posted by rogue06 View PostPersonally I see that as being combined they set a record not that each element set a record.
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EGGzackly, otherwise it'd have to be "the combined audience of...." or something like that.Originally posted by rogue06 View PostPersonally I see that as being combined they set a record not that each element set a record.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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But that was not what he said.Originally posted by rogue06 View PostPersonally I see that as being combined they set a record not that each element set a record."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.Comment
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Maybe he should have said "that depends on what the meaning of "is" is".Originally posted by Charles View Post
The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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I agree it is far too charitable. However it cannot be logical given the fact that Spicer said BOTH. If he had said combined it would have been completely different.Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostThat might be logical, but you're being far too charitable."Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.Comment
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who cares? He was either wrong or misspoke. Is it the end of the world? Is the press secretary some sort of Pope of News or something?Originally posted by Charles View Post
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So this is the question you ask when I have made it very clear why he was wrong. When MM claimed he was right you felt no need to ask "who cares?". Or am I misreading you?Originally posted by Sparko View Post"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.Comment
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I am just wondering why this is such a big deal for you to keep arguing it. Let's say he was wrong and you are right. So what?Originally posted by Charles View Post
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I guess you could say that for quite many discussions in here.Originally posted by Sparko View Post
Personally I see a point in making people aware that they contradict basic logic in order to support someone. And when they call others "braindead" in that context I think it is ok to point to the fact that actually they themselves are making the false claim.
And back then Spicer could have just said he made an error. But he went on to blame the media for wanting to misrepresent him. That was also false, they actually took him by his word. Are you starting to see the point about why this matter in the whole "fake news" discussion? It's a rather good example of how the "alternative fact" approach also goes for "alternative logic" in order to make others appear as fake news or perhaps braindead (
). It matters in that context, and I don't remember you stating that that discussion was not important.
"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.Comment
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dude, it was a throwaway comment. He wasn't giving a scientific report on crowd sizes.Originally posted by Charles View PostI guess you could say that for quite many discussions in here.
Personally I see a point in making people aware that they contradict basic logic in order to support someone. And when they call others "braindead" in that context I think it is ok to point to the fact that actually they themselves are making the false claim.
And back then Spicer could have just said he made an error. But he went on to blame the media for wanting to misrepresent him. That was also false, they actually took him by his word. Are you starting to see the point about why this matter in the whole "fake news" discussion? It's a rather good example of how the "alternative fact" approach also goes for "alternative logic" in order to make others appear as fake news or perhaps braindead (). It matters in that context, and I don't remember you stating that that discussion was not important.
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dude, how does that change the points I just gave?Originally posted by Sparko View Post"Yes. President Trump is a huge embarrassment. And it’s an embarrassment to evangelical Christianity that there appear to be so many who will celebrate precisely the aspects that I see Biblically as most lamentable and embarrassing." Southern Baptist leader Albert Mohler Jr.Comment
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The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.Comment
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Congratulations! You have won an award.Originally posted by Charles View Post
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The liberal fixation with that comment is what my mom refers to as "majoring on the minors".Originally posted by Sparko View PostSome may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by PetraComment
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