Jesus in Mosiah 15

[One Bad Pig]

LDS POV is that no one being can acquire literal omnipresence--not even deity, any more than deity is able to do those other famous paradoxical impossibilities such as make a too-heavy rock, or to self-annihilate, etc.

I agree that from the LDS standpoint, literal omnipresence (and omnipotence and omniscience) would be impossible; they are only possible in a monotheist paradigm.

As for the ongoing acquisition of knowledge, what limits are there, really, on the potential of an immortal child of God to increase in knowledge?

The obvious limit would be what is observable. I can't observe your thoughts or motives for doing this or that (though with sufficient observation I may be able to guess the latter with reasonable accuracy).

[nrajeff]

I agree that from the LDS standpoint, literal omnipresence (and omnipotence and omniscience) would be impossible; they are only possible in a monotheist paradigm.

The obvious limit would be what is observable. I can't observe your thoughts or motives for doing this or that (though with sufficient observation I may be able to guess the latter with reasonable accuracy).

But didn't Peter and other apostles get mind-reading abilities even before they had spent millions of post-resurrection years in heaven, progressing in their knowledge? So if it is possible for humans to be given such abilities here in their 90-year mortal lifespans, with all the limitations that we currently have, how can you believe that in the eternities, such abilities WON'T be possible?

[One Bad Pig]

But didn't Peter and other apostles get mind-reading abilities even before they had spent millions of post-resurrection years in heaven, progressing in their knowledge? So if it is possible for humans to be given such abilities here in their 90-year mortal lifespans, with all the limitations that we currently have, how can you believe that in the eternities, such abilities WON'T be possible?

I don't recall off-hand where Peter and other apostles got mind-reading abilities, though I know of rare instances where someone can do that. Reading one mind is a far cry from reading all minds, however. In a room-full of conversations, it can be difficult to track a single one, let alone all of them.

[nrajeff]

I don't recall off-hand where Peter and other apostles got mind-reading abilities, though I know of rare instances where someone can do that.

I was just referring to the ability of apostles to be given knowledge of what other people are thinking--"what it is in their heart." Or, to say it more accurately, GOD's ability to tell someone what another person is thinking. Which qualifies as "mind-reading," I would say.

Reading one mind is a far cry from reading all minds, however. In a room-full of conversations, it can be difficult to track a single one, let alone all of them.

That is true as far as mortal humans, in their current state, is concerned.

I do question the suggestion that literal omnipresence/omnipotence/ omniscience are really possible in a monotheist paradigm. How about from an Eastern pantheistic religion's paradigm? Or an animistic one? What makes strict monotheism the only paradigm where the literal omni's are possible?