Election 2012: State of the Nation

[Psychic Missile]

Yes, to several actually.

Then how can you be under such a delusion as to believe that there's some political status quo to which all students assimilate to, let alone the idea of political peer pressure?

[Darth Executor]

Then how can you be under such a delusion as to believe that there's some political status quo to which all students assimilate to, let alone the idea of political peer pressure?

I am not under any delusion. You do not notice this because you already conform to the generally accepted socio-policial pressures of college. People tend not to notice what is perfectly normal to them. A fish does not notice the water around him, but if I tossed you in it you'd definitely notice you are in water.

[phank]

I am not under any delusion. You do not notice this because you already conform to the generally accepted socio-policial pressures of college. People tend not to notice what is perfectly normal to them. A fish does not notice the water around him, but if I tossed you in it you'd definitely notice you are in water.

This is a good point. There is a strong correlation between level of education and party affiliation. How can this correlation possibly be understood except in terms of brainwashing. Certainly knowledge and understanding can't explain any of it - indeed, the only rational conclusion is that education is harmful to knowledge and understanding. What ELSE could it be?

[Darth Executor]

This is a good point. There is a strong correlation between level of education and party affiliation. How can this correlation possibly be understood except in terms of brainwashing. Certainly knowledge and understanding can't explain any of it - indeed, the only rational conclusion is that education is harmful to knowledge and understanding. What ELSE could it be?

Education is a neutral term that is indifferent to knowledge and understanding. It can provide both good knowledge and understanding as well as bad knowledge and understanding depending on who is doing the teaching. Many YECs are educated, but one can hardly consider their knowledge and understanding to match reality. It is no different for people who are infected with progressivitis in college.

[Meta Knight]

Education is a neutral term that is indifferent to knowledge and understanding. It can provide both good knowledge and understanding as well as bad knowledge and understanding depending on who is doing the teaching. Many YECs are educated, but one can hardly consider their knowledge and understanding to match reality. It is no different for people who are infected with progressivitis in college.

And given how far America is behind the rest of the world in terms of scholastic ability, I wouldn't go around claiming that the liberal indoctrination that passes for education in this country is making people smarter.

[KingsGambit]

I freely admit that, by far, the most practical education I got in college was social/how to function on my own/etc.

[Jaecp]

I freely admit that, by far, the most practical education I got in college was social/how to function on my own/etc.

What was your major?

[phank]

And given how far America is behind the rest of the world in terms of scholastic ability, I wouldn't go around claiming that the liberal indoctrination that passes for education in this country is making people smarter.

Especially in those critical areas where liberal indoctrination is strongest - mathematics and science.

[Thersites]

Especially in those critical areas where liberal indoctrination is strongest - mathematics and science.

Someone's never heard of gender studies.

[phank]

Someone's never heard of gender studies.

How does the US rank compared with the rest of the world in gender studies?

[Darth Executor]

Most programs make you take some humanities course. Even if you avoid the retarded ones like "Environmental Citizenship", you never know when your Short Story class has some degenerate hyperfeminist professor spending a considerable amout of time talking about Sarah Palin and John McCain. And this in a Canadian class too.

[phank]

How does Canada compare with the rest of the world in humanities?

[Psychic Missile]

I am not under any delusion. You do not notice this because you already conform to the generally accepted socio-policial pressures of college. People tend not to notice what is perfectly normal to them. A fish does not notice the water around him, but if I tossed you in it you'd definitely notice you are in water.

People don't change their ideology due to peer pressure. People change their ideology due to experiences, and a college can certainly provide novel experiences to someone who is out of their element for the first time. Until that happens, people are going to more or less match their parent's ideology.

[Darth Executor]

People don't change their ideology due to peer pressure.

[Thersites]

If you change your beliefs just because other people tell you to, you probably didn't hold them very strongly to begin with. Peer pressure alone can overcome certain types of inhibitions, but it generally won't affect people with belief structures that are mature and rational enough to be called coherent ideologies.