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  • Originally posted by Charles View Post
    But you cannot claim Trump was the least worst option like you did unless you actually indulge in "what if....?"
    You have a point. It can be a useful guide to conjecture what outcome might derive from a present or future act; what I find less useful is "what if x had happened instead of y?"
    Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

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    • Originally posted by seer View Post
      I first supported Walker, then Carson, then Cruz, finally Trump...
      How very flexible for an Evangelical like you to support a thrice married adulterous man in direct contravention to Jesus’ explicit stricture against divorce.
      “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
        How very flexible for an Evangelical like you to support a thrice married adulterous man in direct contravention to Jesus’ explicit stricture against divorce.
        Two words - Supreme Court...
        Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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        • Originally posted by seer View Post
          Two words - Supreme Court...
          So anything's justifiable as longs as you get more judges who will crack down on workers rights and ensure that the blacks and gays don't get too uppity...?

          And you pretend it's about abortion... yet you've had a conservative dominated Supreme court for 40 years and there's yet to be any change to abortion laws. Maybe another 40 years will do the trick?
          "I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
          "Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
          "[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein

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          • Originally posted by Starlight View Post
            So anything's justifiable as longs as you get more judges who will crack down on workers rights and ensure that the blacks and gays don't get too uppity...?
            Spreading more falsehoods about your opponents again? Can you idiots go 5 seconds without accusing your ideological opponents as being racist?

            And you pretend it's about abortion... yet you've had a conservative dominated Supreme court for 40 years and there's yet to be any change to abortion laws. Maybe another 40 years will do the trick?
            The Supreme Court is only one branch idiot. The other two have gone more liberal over the past 40 years.
            "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
            GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
              How very flexible for an Evangelical like you to support a thrice married adulterous man in direct contravention to Jesus’ explicit stricture against divorce.
              Sort of like how liberals claim to support rape victims while supporting a women that smeared the rape victims of her husband, so she could put her rapist husband into the White House? Funny how many forget that little historical bit of history back from the 90's.
              "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
              GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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              • Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View Post
                Sort of like how liberals claim to support rape victims while supporting a women that smeared the rape victims of her husband, so she could put her rapist husband into the White House? Funny how many forget that little historical bit of history back from the 90's.
                Trump has also been accused by many women of sexual harassment and misconduct over the years, so there goes that argument.

                FYI: I don't trust the accusers on either side.

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                • Originally posted by Sea of red View Post
                  Trump has also been accused by many women of sexual harassment and misconduct over the years, so there goes that argument.

                  FYI: I don't trust the accusers on either side.
                  Already said Trump was a pig, several times at that. Oops and what argument did I make? That liberals that make huge deals with Trumps sexual escapades should start looking at the issues surrounding their own party. Hillary Clinton did smear anyone who claimed that Bill raped them and didn't she post a deleted tweet about how rape accusers should be believed? Likewise haven't liberals made a huge deal about believing rape victims? So umm... how can the actions that Hillary took towards her husbands accusers jive with her words during her campaign? Trump is no doubt a pig, but Hillary is at the very least a hypocrite and a liar. So using a twist of the moral argument here who should one vote for? A pig or a hypocrite and serial liar?
                  "The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
                  GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy

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                  • Originally posted by seer View Post
                    Two words - Supreme Court...
                    So "the end justifies the means", as Machiavelli would say, no matter how immoral "the means".
                    “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                    • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                      So "the end justifies the means", as Machiavelli would say, no matter how immoral "the means".
                      Well yes Tass, the Supreme Court is key - and who should I have voted for Hillary? Really?
                      Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s

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                      • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                        How very flexible for an Evangelical like you to support a thrice married adulterous man in direct contravention to Jesus’ explicit stricture against divorce.
                        Because he was still seen as preferable to the other major candidate.

                        You bring up things like Trump's previous marriages as if one decides to vote for Trump or not solely based on Trump himself, rather than considering him versus the other choices.

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                        • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                          So "the end justifies the means", as Machiavelli would say, no matter how immoral "the means".
                          Yep. That about sums it up.
                          That's what
                          - She

                          Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                          - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                          I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                          - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                          • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                            Yep. That about sums it up.
                            Interesting! So Evangelicals see nothing wrong in supporting a racist, sexist moral degenerate so long as he stacks the Supreme Court with conservatives, whom they hope will overturn gay marriage and abortion laws... despite the fact that these laws are supported by the majority of citizens. God will be pleased. <sarcasm>
                            “He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.

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                            • Originally posted by Tassman View Post
                              Interesting! So Evangelicals see nothing wrong in supporting a racist, sexist moral degenerate so long as he stacks the Supreme Court with conservatives, whom they hope will overturn gay marriage and abortion laws... despite the fact that these laws are supported by the majority of citizens. God will be pleased. <sarcasm>
                              As opposed to voting for a lying, morally degenerate enabler of her serial rapist husband, who supports the genocide of the unborn, is a closet racist herself who carries hot sauce in her purse and who don't feel noways tired, and who promised to slant the SCOTUS further left? Yeah, I'll take the Trumpkin and his faults over Liberal Clintzilla if it even remotely slows the moral decay of my country.
                              That's what
                              - She

                              Without a clear-cut definition of sin, morality becomes a mere argument over the best way to train animals
                              - Manya the Holy Szin (The Quintara Marathon)

                              I may not be as old as dirt, but me and dirt are starting to have an awful lot in common
                              - Stephen R. Donaldson

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                              • Originally posted by Bill the Cat View Post
                                As opposed to voting for a lying, morally degenerate enabler of her serial rapist husband, who supports the genocide of the unborn, is a closet racist herself who carries hot sauce in her purse and who don't feel noways tired, and who promised to slant the SCOTUS further left? Yeah, I'll take the Trumpkin and his faults over Liberal Clintzilla if it even remotely slows the moral decay of my country.
                                Must be nice that Tassman lives in a country where there is always one candidate in an election who is a paragon of all that is good so he can vote with no reservations.
                                Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom

                                Veritas vos Liberabit<>< Learn Greek <>< Look here for an Orthodox Church in America<><Ancient Faith Radio
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                                I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist

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