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And what evidence did Mounce provide to show that the assertion is correct?
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1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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He cites that Christ is prayed to in other passages. Murray Harris did the same thing.
Others who deny the Lord Jesus is referred to here do not provide evidence as well.
The evidence is there that Christ is prayed to in Acts 1:24-25. I cited the link above and so far you have not refuted it. You were the one asking for evidence to be sown that this prayer is to the Lord Jesus. I did. Refute what i wrote if you disagree.Last edited by foudroyant; 07-30-2014, 10:07 PM.Comment
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Still waiting for you to respond to Post #243.Comment
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I responded to post 243 - You laid a charge of blasphemy - you haven't provided any evidence to support the charge - the defendant is found not guilty: case dismissed,.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
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Nice try. Won't work.
Supply the official Roman Catholic teaching concerning proseuchomai.Comment
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I responded to post 243 - You laid a charge of blasphemy - you haven't provided any evidence to support the charge - the defendant is found not guilty: case dismissed,.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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You made an assertion without proof.Comment
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The Church of Rome advocates prayer to the saints.Originally posted by foudroyant View Post
When the Church of Rome uses the word prayer in this context, which word would be appropriate in a Koine Greek translation?
Would that word be προσευχομαι? No. Rome does not consider the saints to be deities.
Can other words be used as translations for "prayer" in Koine Greek? Yes.
Mistranslate prayer as προσευχομαι as often as you like: it won't make your interpretation valid.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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When they say that they are praying to the saints, they are not saying that the prayer is προσευχομαι.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Cite an official Roman Catholic source for your assertion.Comment
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By your own definition, προσευχομαι can only be given to a deity. They claim the saints are not deities. ergo: what they are doing is not προσευχομαι - it can't be, they aren't praying to what they consider to be deities.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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See Post #266.Comment
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Case dismissed.1Cor 15:34 Come to your senses as you ought and stop sinning; for I say to your shame, there are some who know not God.
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Scripture before Tradition:
but that won't prevent others from
taking it upon themselves to deprive you
of the right to call yourself Christian.
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Your unfounded assertion dismissed.Comment
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