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I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostDavid Klinghoffer is an Intelligent Design advocate at the Discovery Institute
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by seer View PostSo what? All those articles about the bible being wrong were wrong themselves.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by rogue06 View PostJust pointing out that he isn't an evolutionist.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostDon't Intelligent Design types consider themselves evolutionists to some degree? It was my understanding that some did, but that they simply believed that evolution was guided rather than strictly natural.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostDon't Intelligent Design types consider themselves evolutionists to some degree? It was my understanding that some did, but that they simply believed that evolution was guided rather than strictly natural.
Others are OECs, YECs, or a wide variety of things.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostHuh. I wonder how (or why) Intelligent Design would be compatible with YEC.
Ronald Numbers' The Creationists is a really great source here, as is Creationism's Trojan Horse: The Wedge of Intelligent Design by Forrest and Gross.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostHuh. I wonder how (or why) Intelligent Design would be compatible with YEC.
I'm always still in trouble again
"You're by far the worst poster on TWeb" and "TWeb's biggest liar" --starlight (the guy who says Stalin was a right-winger)
"Overall I would rate the withdrawal from Afghanistan as by far the best thing Biden's done" --Starlight
"Of course, human life begins at fertilization that’s not the argument." --Tassman
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Originally posted by DesertBerean View PostJorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostHuh. I wonder how (or why) Intelligent Design would be compatible with YEC.
"Intelligent design means that various forms of life began abruptly through an intelligent agency, with their distinctive features already intact. Fish with fins and scales, birds with feathers, beaks, wings, etc."
Creationism and ID are not just compatible, they're the same thing. Just ask the cdesign proponentsists.Jorge: Functional Complex Information is INFORMATION that is complex and functional.
MM: First of all, the Bible is a fixed document.
MM on covid-19: We're talking about an illness with a better than 99.9% rate of survival.
seer: I believe that so called 'compassion' [for starving Palestinian kids] maybe a cover for anti Semitism, ...
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Originally posted by Doug Shaver View PostFrom an ID FAQ:
Originally posted by rogue06 View PostWith some of those who reject evolution that is all that really matters. It's like Christian YECs joining hands with radical Islamic extremists who oppose evolution. You wouldn't think it would happen but it has.
Originally posted by Roy View Post"Creation means that the various forms of life began abruptly through the agency of an intelligent creator with their distinctive features already intact. Fish with fins and scales, birds with feathers, beaks, and wings, etc."
"Intelligent design means that various forms of life began abruptly through an intelligent agency, with their distinctive features already intact. Fish with fins and scales, birds with feathers, beaks, wings, etc."
Creationism and ID are not just compatible, they're the same thing. Just ask the cdesign proponentsists.
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Originally posted by Adrift View PostHmm. For some reason I assumed that almost all IDers were old earth creationists. By the way, the word "creationist" for "young earth creationist" always throws me. All Christians, and most theists are creationists in some regard. We all believe that the natural world was created at some point, we simply differ on when that creative action ceased."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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