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    Human Dignity?

    Webster; dignity: the quality or state of being worthy, honored, or esteemed


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    Logically, and inherently, do humans have more dignity than animals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Logically, and inherently, do humans have more dignity than animals?
    Humans are the only animals that blush, or needs to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    Humans are the only animals that blush, or needs to.

    Mark Twain
    And that gives them more dignity than animals?
    "We can understand hell in its aspect of privation. All your life an unattainable ecstasy has hovered just beyond the grasp of your consciousness. The day is coming when you will wake to find, beyond all hope, that you have attained it, or else, that it was within your reach and you have lost it forever.” C.S. Lewis

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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    And that gives them more dignity than animals?
    No
    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:

    go with the flow the river knows . . .

    Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by shunyadragon View Post
    No
    Then what does?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Then what does?
    Charles can answer that judging by the thread link below.

    http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/sh...l=1#post463535
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Logically, and inherently, do humans have more dignity than animals?
    Find me an animal other than humans that honors or esteems itself. I think that will answer your question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrikature View Post
    Find me an animal other than humans that honors or esteems itself. I think that will answer your question.
    Show me another species that will kill one of its members for fun. In other words, not all human beings esteem or honors other human beings. Or in some cases not even itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seer View Post
    Show me another species that will kill one of its members for fun. In other words, not all human beings esteem or honors other human beings. Or in some cases not even itself.
    How is that relevant? You're asking the difference between humans and other animals when it comes to dignity. Other animals aren't capable (so far as we know) of comprehending the concept, let alone applying it to another. That alone is more than sufficient to say that humans have more dignity than animals. We're the only ones capable of it. Whether or not we always act accordingly is another question altogether.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carrikature View Post
    How is that relevant? You're asking the difference between humans and other animals when it comes to dignity. Other animals aren't capable (so far as we know) of comprehending the concept, let alone applying it to another. That alone is more than sufficient to say that humans have more dignity than animals. We're the only ones capable of it. Whether or not we always act accordingly is another question altogether.
    Yes, but why does the fact that some humans confer esteem, while other don't, necessarily leads to humans having dignity? I don't see how that follows.
    "We can understand hell in its aspect of privation. All your life an unattainable ecstasy has hovered just beyond the grasp of your consciousness. The day is coming when you will wake to find, beyond all hope, that you have attained it, or else, that it was within your reach and you have lost it forever.” C.S. Lewis

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