What should be done?

[Darth Executor]

No one has answered my question. the facts and units are as specified. What should be done? This is one reason I don't come here much anymore--people don't answer questions which are asked, which are legitimate questions. If no one is going to answer, I won't tell you where this is or anything else about it.

There is no good answer.

[Carrikature]

No one has answered my question. the facts and units are as specified. What should be done? This is one reason I don't come here much anymore--people don't answer questions which are asked, which are legitimate questions. If no one is going to answer, I won't tell you where this is or anything else about it.

No one said the questions aren't legitimate. They are. They just can't be answered with the little bits of info you've given. Maybe you can answer some other legitimate questions and get the answers you're looking for? Here's a few I can come up with off the top of my head:

1) Why are the poor landless farmers poor and landless?
2) How did the 3300 come by their land?
3) Are the 3300 using the land?
4) Could the land be used for farming AND what the 3300 use it for?
5) Why can't the 3300 build fences to keep off the farmers?
6) Why are the 3300 allowed to kill the poor landless farmers?
7) Are you calling them 'poor landless farmers' to skew judgments in their favor?
8) Could the poor landless farmers be doing something other than trying to setup farms on the 3300's property?
9) Should we claim that being poor and/or landless gives you some right to use another's property to correct either status?
10) Are the 3300 perhaps already doing something to alleviate the poor and landless state which the poor landless farmers are refusing?
11) Who decides what is good farmland? The 3300? The poor landless farmers?


Don't complain that people aren't giving you answers when you're not willing to provide enough information to get coherent answers. If you're really interested in our views, you need to let us actually develop them in context. Otherwise, why bother?

[Jedidiah]

I know where about 3300 people own 140,000 square miles of good farmland. When poor landless farmers from outside try to set up a farm on this land, some are removed forcibly losing all the livestock, buildings and effort they put into the farms on this forbidden land. Some of these poor landless farmers are killed along with their families and the farms burned, sometimes with the farmer families inside the buildings.

What should be done? On the one hand the farmers are trespassing on privately owned land. On the other hand the farmers have no land of their own with which to feed their families.
Should the land be taken from the 3300 owners and distributed to the poor?
Should ownership rights be enforced and the poor landless farmers excluded?

Curious the views here. It would also be interesting to know the reasoning behind the answers.

No where near enough information.

[Roy]

I know where about 3300 people own 140,000 square miles of good farmland. When poor landless farmers from outside try to set up a farm on this land, some are removed forcibly losing all the livestock, buildings and effort they put into the farms on this forbidden land. Some of these poor landless farmers are killed along with their families and the farms burned, sometimes with the farmer families inside the buildings.

What should be done?

I don't think this can be answered without additional information. One solution might be to get the landless farmers to pay the landowners rent, but your scenario is not inconsistent with e.g. the land being some form of nature reserve that the landless farmers are destroying, or the landowners being hunter-gatherers who use the land but not for agriculture.

[tabibito]

This also could be an allegorical account of refugees.

[stfoskey15]

They could hire help.

Like those poor landless farmers.

[grmorton]

Of course it is a trap which is why your gutless folk don't want to answer the question. Yall have all the relevant details required. Where this is, who this is, is not important at all. What is important is that it exists. But see yall gutless folk later, maybe. Seems no one has any courage or convictions here.

Those unwilling to be wrong are those unwilling to learn something new

[Terraceth]

Of course it is a trap which is why your gutless folk don't want to answer the question. Yall have all the relevant details required. Where this is, who this is, is not important at all. What is important is that it exists. But see yall gutless folk later, maybe. Seems no one has any courage or convictions here.

Those unwilling to be wrong are those unwilling to learn something new

>Admits the question is some kind of a trap.
>Admonishes people for not falling into the trap.

Perfect troll logic!

[Darth Executor]

Of course it is a trap which is why your gutless folk don't want to answer the question. Yall have all the relevant details required. Where this is, who this is, is not important at all.

It's very important. I'm willing to risk my life for some people but not others. I'm willing to take sides in bad conflicts with no clear good guys or bad guys provided I have some interest in one or both parties. So who they are is vital information. Without that information i have no reason to pick a side.

[Faber]

[shunyadragon]

I know where about 3300 people own 140,000 square miles of good farmland. When poor landless farmers from outside try to set up a farm on this land, some are removed forcibly losing all the livestock, buildings and effort they put into the farms on this forbidden land. Some of these poor landless farmers are killed along with their families and the farms burned, sometimes with the farmer families inside the buildings.

What should be done? On the one hand the farmers are trespassing on privately owned land. On the other hand the farmers have no land of their own with which to feed their families.
Should the land be taken from the 3300 owners and distributed to the poor?
Should ownership rights be enforced and the poor landless farmers excluded?

Curious the views here. It would also be interesting to know the reasoning behind the answers.

I would support a government buy out of the tracts of the land divided into economic farm tracts by emanate domain to by resold to the low income farmers based on repayment in terms pf the economic return the farms.

[Jedidiah]

Of course it is a trap which is why your gutless folk don't want to answer the question. Yall have all the relevant details required. Where this is, who this is, is not important at all. What is important is that it exists. But see yall gutless folk later, maybe. Seems no one has any courage or convictions here.

Those unwilling to be wrong are those unwilling to learn something new

We certainly do not have all the relevant information. Who these people are and what the background is makes all the difference. This sort of dishonest trolling does not seem to be the sort of thing I recall you pulling in the past. What is up with you?

[Roy]

Of course it is a trap which is why your gutless folk don't want to answer the question. Yall have all the relevant details required.

Potentially relevant details that are missing:
- what the land is currently being used for
- whether the landless farmers have attempted to negotiate with the landowners, for e.g. payment of rent
- how the current landowners gained possession of the land
- whether the farmers are bringing in diseases or invasive species
- whether the farmers acknowledge the landowners' ownership of the land
- why the landless farmers are in that predicament
- what laws are in place in the area

My current guess is that you're talking about European settlers colonising the North American plains, in which case you've left out a whole heap of relevant details.