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  • #46
    Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
    I currently work in a company with distinct pay grades so the issue of a 'gender pay gap' largely doesn't arise.

    Saying that, I do find it odd that most times (at least most that I am aware of) when pay grades are released there is a clear difference in what the men & women are paid. And I'm not speaking about a pay gap due to long term leave due to having kids.

    If two people do the same desk job with similar experience, I'm not sure why such a gap exists. The only thing I can think of is that a company will pay as little as they can get away with & men 'tend' to be more pushy about raises.
    I think that is the case too. I think in general (not always) women seem to be less aggressive when it comes to asking for more money. I have a friend who has been working at a lousy job for years and I can't get her to even look for a better job much less ask for a raise. If I had her job I would demand more money or walk. She does a lot of the office management but doesn't get paid for it.

    I notice the same thing when it comes to things like car buying. Women are more likely to accept what the salesperson tells them the price will be, where a man will really get into the negotiating and haggling. Again, not always. I know some guys who meekly pay whatever the sticker says, and some girls who would haggle a guy to death. And in some things women will indeed argue about pricing, like shopping for clothes, where a man probably just pays whatever the sticker says.

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    • #47
      http://babylonbee.com/news/new-googl...sers-thoughts/

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      • #48
        A few years ago a bunch of academic looking articles and videos came out saying that the gender wage gap was a myth. Has that opinion been reversed recently?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Adrift View Post
          A few years ago a bunch of academic looking articles and videos came out saying that the gender wage gap was a myth. Has that opinion been reversed recently?
          If you can be any gender you want just by self-identifying, then how can there be a gender wage gap? Women should just self-identify as men and then they will make as much as men do.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by EvoUK View Post
            I currently work in a company with distinct pay grades so the issue of a 'gender pay gap' largely doesn't arise.

            Saying that, I do find it odd that most times (at least most that I am aware of) when pay grades are released there is a clear difference in what the men & women are paid. And I'm not speaking about a pay gap due to long term leave due to having kids.

            If two people do the same desk job with similar experience, I'm not sure why such a gap exists. The only thing I can think of is that a company will pay as little as they can get away with & men 'tend' to be more pushy about raises.
            * emphasis mine

            Careful, that is one of the comments that got that guy fired from Google...

            It's also true - we girls aren't as 'pushy' for a variety of reasons.
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            • #51
              Here is an interesting article where experts in the field, scientists, discuss the memo:

              https://www.aei.org/publication/some...l-google-memo/

              One observation struck me as particularly poignant.



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