Yay single payer system!

[EvoUK]

I have seen some good 'uns.

I'd ask what you were referring to, but not sure if they'd be allowed in here

[shunyadragon]

This is what we can look forward to if the US ever goes to the much lauded single-payer system that Starlight keeps pushing...

Obese patients and smokers banned from routine surgery in 'most severe ever' rationing in the NHShttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...d=tmg_share_fb

Nothing to do with an equal payer system. Smelly Red Herrings all over the boat dock at 95 degrees +.

[Tassman]

This is what we can look forward to if the US ever goes to the much lauded single-payer system that Starlight keeps pushing...

Obese patients and smokers banned from routine surgery in 'most severe ever' rationing in the NHShttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...d=tmg_share_fb

Rubbish! The United Kingdom NHS has been judged the best, safest and most affordable healthcare system out of 11 countries analysed and ranked by experts from the influential Commonwealth Fund health thinktank.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...lthcare-survey

Needless to say, the top 10 have universal health care, whereas the US, ranked bottom, does not.

[Starlight]

It's a phrase made popular by Larry Holmes when addressing Rocky Marciano. It is basically showing the difference between their skill levels, and that someone is so far beneath you that they aren't even important enough to carry your dirty jock strap..

Some serious Dunning-Kruger's happening on your part for you not to realize it's the other way around.

[Starlight]

Rubbish! The United Kingdom NHS has been judged the best, safest and most affordable healthcare system out of 11 countries analysed and ranked by experts from the influential Commonwealth Fund health thinktank.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...lthcare-survey

Needless to say, the top 10 have universal health care, whereas the US, ranked bottom, does not.

There's a great new study out last month on the subject, which is worth looking at in detail. It takes a commonly-used list of 32 lethal but treatable medical conditions, and looks at death data from 192 countries to see how good the healthcare systems in those countries is at stopping people from actually dying from those conditions (and also at how likely they are to kill you by mistake from medical error while treating you). The data is compiled into an overall percentage of "Healthcare Access and Quality" with 0% being no healthcare at all, and 100% being an ideal country that gave the best possible prevention and treatment for all 32 of these conditions.

The usual suspects are the winners: Iceland (94), Switzerland (92), Sweden & Australia & Norway & Finland & Spain & Netherlands (90), NZ & Canada & the UK & and most of the rest of Western Europe is in the (85-89) range. The USA scores as the 35th best country for Healthcare Access and Quality with a score of 81 the same as Estonia and Montenegro.

The paper has a good image showing how healthcare worldwide improved from 1990 to 2015:

healthcare.jpg

[Since TWeb's shrink-images-to-be-ridiculously-small has attacked here's the key:
Top pic is 1990, bottom is 2015. Colors:
Best: Purple
Very good: Blue
Good: Green
Okay: Yellow
Bad: Orange
Terrible: Red]

There's also another interesting image in the paper showing what country's healthcare quality is like compared to the country's level of wealth. So you can see which countries are giving it all they've got for healthcare, even if that's not much, and which countries are twiddling their thumbs and letting citizens die when they could afford to save them.

[Tassman]

There's a great new study out last month on the subject, which is worth looking at in detail. It takes a commonly-used list of 32 lethal but treatable medical conditions, and looks at death data from 192 countries to see how good the healthcare systems in those countries is at stopping people from actually dying from those conditions (and also at how likely they are to kill you by mistake from medical error while treating you). The data is compiled into an overall percentage of "Healthcare Access and Quality" with 0% being no healthcare at all, and 100% being an ideal country that gave the best possible prevention and treatment for all 32 of these conditions.

The usual suspects are the winners: Iceland (94), Switzerland (92), Sweden & Australia & Norway & Finland & Spain & Netherlands (90), NZ & Canada & the UK & and most of the rest of Western Europe is in the (85-89) range. The USA scores as the 35th best country for Healthcare Access and Quality with a score of 81 the same as Estonia and Montenegro.

The paper has a good image showing how healthcare worldwide improved from 1990 to 2015:

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[Since TWeb's shrink-images-to-be-ridiculously-small has attacked here's the key:
Top pic is 1990, bottom is 2015. Colors:
Best: Purple
Very good: Blue
Good: Green
Okay: Yellow
Bad: Orange
Terrible: Red]

There's also another interesting image in the paper showing what country's healthcare quality is like compared to the country's level of wealth. So you can see which countries are giving it all they've got for healthcare, even if that's not much, and which countries are twiddling their thumbs and letting citizens die when they could afford to save them.

Interesting! Thanks.

[Bill the Cat]

Some serious Dunning-Kruger's happening on your part for you not to realize it's the other way around.

Whatever you say, rainbow dull...