Liberals need to stop messing with the First Amendment

[Cow Poke]

I'm inclined to say "Yes." There is no necessity for anyone to be such an idiot as to follow the incitement.

Interesting.

[Jedidiah]

I'm inclined to say "Yes." There is no necessity for anyone to be such an idiot as to follow the incitement.

Trouble is in this fallen world we have too many who are easy to "incite."

[Darth Executor]

Unpopular opinion but I don't think many people actually truly support the First Amendment as written. By allowing exceptions like fire in a crowded theater, slander, threats, etc., that's already admitting that freedom of speech is not absolute, but the way the First Amendment is written doesn't leave room for any exceptions at all.

For practical reasons, though, I'm fine with the way it's generally interpreted.

They are not free speech expressions though, anymore than writing a fraudulent cheque is.

[Darth Executor]

As I have explained before, I think the speech that needs to be protected in a democracy is anti-government speech.

Yes, we already know you don't believe in free speech.

[kiwimac]

They didn't hold a violent demonstration, they held a peaceful demonstration that turned violent when leftists showed up and attacked them. There's a reason why leftist demosntrations are largely uneventful (unless you start fighting each other) while it's impossible even for mild mannered center-right conservatives like charles murray to hold a speech without being physically assaulted.

Heiferdust!

[Jedidiah]

Heiferdust!

No, it is a fact.

[NorrinRadd]

Trouble is in this fallen world we have too many who are easy to "incite."

Yes, most of the populace is too emotionally weak and unstable to properly handle the freedoms we are guaranteed. But I still don't favor limiting those freedoms.

[Cow Poke]

Yes, most of the populace is too emotionally weak and unstable to properly handle the freedoms we are guaranteed. But I still don't favor limiting those freedoms.

So, test case...

Bob is loudly and publicly calling for the death of Jim.
Andy kills Jim, and cites Bob's rants as his motive.
Andy is obviously guilty of murder, but what is Bob's fate?

[Sparko]

So, test case...

Bob is loudly and publicly calling for the death of Jim.
Andy kills Jim, and cites Bob's rants as his motive.
Andy is obviously guilty of murder, but what is Bob's fate?

Was Bob a liberal or a conservative?

[seer]

So, test case...

Bob is loudly and publicly calling for the death of Jim.
Andy kills Jim, and cites Bob's rants as his motive.
Andy is obviously guilty of murder, but what is Bob's fate?

Black Lives Matter chant - "what do we want, dead cops, when do we want them, now!" Soon after 6 (5+1) cops are killed by black leftists. Who is at fault - should those demonstrators be charged?

[NorrinRadd]

So, test case...

Bob is loudly and publicly calling for the death of Jim.
Andy kills Jim, and cites Bob's rants as his motive.
Andy is obviously guilty of murder, but what is Bob's fate?

Andy gets the death penalty. Bob is free to continue his hateful harangues. Hopefully future audiences will learn from Andy's fate and ignore or mock Bob.

[hedrick]

Black Lives Matter chant - "what do we want, dead cops, when do we want them, now!" Soon after 6 (5+1) cops are killed by black leftists. Who is at fault - should those demonstrators be charged?

http://www.msnbc.com/the-reid-report...ead-cops-chant
http://www.snopes.com/black-lives-ma...n-baton-rouge/

[seer]

http://www.msnbc.com/the-reid-report...ead-cops-chant
http://www.snopes.com/black-lives-ma...n-baton-rouge/

And what is your point? "Pigs in the blanket, fry them like bacon" and the "dead cops" chants were both meant to see harm come to cops. And that is my point, I don't think that the demonstrators should be charged for the six cops that were killed, the ones doing the killing should be killed.

[hedrick]

And what is your point? "Pigs in the blanket, fry them like bacon" and the "dead cops" chants were both meant to see harm come to cops. And that is my point, I don't think that the demonstrators should be charged for the six cops that were killed, the ones doing the killing should be killed.

There are definitely extremists on both ends, but it's not right to saddle BLM with this, any more than the white nationalists -- as distasteful as they are -- were responsible for the murder by car.

[Jedidiah]

There are definitely extremists on both ends, but it's not right to saddle BLM with this, any more than the white nationalists -- as distasteful as they are -- were responsible for the murder by car.

How many have the leftists killed?