Liberals need to stop messing with the First Amendment

[Cow Poke]

No one accused him of that.

It's ridiclous that after a bunch of MAGA boys stage a violent rally that he is still brow beating liberals. Good grief, how many threads is this site going to have blaming liberals for all of Americas problems? I know the SJW's are a freak show, but the alt-right is just as dangerous, and should be called out.

I saw an article on free speech, SoR --- had NOTHING to do with the MAGA thing, whatever that is.

And Star's claim that "The next day CP posts a thread saying liberals are the real problem not Nazis" is a steaming pile of horsie poo --- WHERE does that post (which was simply an excerpt of the article) say ANYTHING about "Nazis not being the problem?"

Sheeeesh!

[Starlight]

I think that's generally accepted, yes - the classic example being, as you pointed out, yelling 'fire' in a crowded theater. But that's one of the cases that is so obvious that "no reasonable person" would honestly defend that "right".

Um, hate to break it to you, but that example was given by a judge in a case that was subsequently overturned. Chances are pretty good today's supreme court would unanimously rule that the expansive interpretation of the first amendment currently in fashion means shouting "fire" in a crowded theater is constitutionally protected free speech.

[KingsGambit]

I saw an article on free speech, SoR --- had NOTHING to do with the MAGA thing, whatever that is.

And Star's claim that "The next day CP posts a thread saying liberals are the real problem not Nazis" is a steaming pile of horsie poo --- WHERE does that post (which was simply an excerpt of the article) say ANYTHING about "Nazis not being the problem?"

Sheeeesh!

MAGA = Make America Great Again. Basically means you're a diehard Trump supporter.

[Starlight]

I haven't been around the news much the last few days, Star.

Yep, which was my point. SoR was assuming a basic level of knowledge on your part, which is always a mistake when dealing with you.

[demi-conservative]

Good grief, how many threads is this site going to have blaming liberals for all of Americas problems? I know the SJW's are a freak show, but the alt-right is just as dangerous, and should be called out.

Alt-right is dangerous, yes, which is why libs are screaming....even when they just hold peaceful rally!!!

But without progs and libs going overboard with PC, "sexist!!!! racist!!!", flooding immigrants in, there would be no alt-right. So blaming libs is good, also appropriate!!

[Cow Poke]

Oh please.

Like you don't know the answers to your questions, or what you ought to be doing.

I posted an article about free speech.... if there are conservatives suppressing free speech, point them out, and I'll consider condemning them.

Your imagination has gone whacky.

[Cow Poke]

There's a famous libertarian book called "Defending the Indefensible" that defends all of them - fire in a crowded theater, slander, threats, blackmail, you name it. But you did say "no reasonable person"...

EGGzackly!

[Darth Executor]

No one accused him of that.

It's ridiclous that after a bunch of MAGA boys stage a violent rally that he is still brow beating liberals. Good grief, how many threads is this site going to have blaming liberals for all of Americas problems? I know the SJW's are a freak show, but the alt-right is just as dangerous, and should be called out.

What's ridiculous is that after a day of shooting acid into the right wingers' eyes you have the gall to claim it's CP's fault that one of them drove a car into your friends

[Cow Poke]

I'll defend CP on this one. He's made pretty clear he isn't a MAGA'er or a white supremacist sympathizer.

I don't even know what MAGA is.

[Darth Executor]

To be fair (though it doesn't justify shouting him down or anything), Charles Murray isn't protested on the basis of being a conservative (he's not even very conservative at all politically).

No, he's protested on the basis of being a "nazi" which includes pretty much the entire right as far as these people are concerned.

[Sea of red]

They didn't hold a violent demonstration, they held a peaceful demonstration that turned violent when leftists showed up and attacked them. .

Says the guy that thought the driver of the vehicle was a liberal.

The only thing not surprising is your coming to the defense of a bunch fascists.

[Darth Executor]

Says the guy that thought the driver of the vehicle was a liberal.

The only thing not surprising is your coming to the defense of a bunch fascists.

I come to the defense of anybody holding peaceful demonstrations while being violently assaulted by leftists like you. You're a scumbag of the highest order.

[Darth Executor]

There's a famous libertarian book called "Defending the Indefensible" that defends all of them - fire in a crowded theater, slander, threats, blackmail, you name it. But you did say "no reasonable person"...

None of those are real free speech issues, because the issue isn't speech, but doing physical or financial damage to somebody. It's like calling a fake check a free speech issue.

[Cow Poke]

MAGA = Make America Great Again. Basically means you're a diehard Trump supporter.

OK, didn't realize that. And, yes, you don't see me defending Trump at all. I've been pretty clear that the ONLY reason I voted for him was to keep Hillary out of office, and in HOPES of a more conservative SCOTUS.

Trump often makes me cringe, and it wouldn't break my heart if he - for whatever reason - stepped aside (either forced of voluntary) and Pence became POTUS.

[Sea of red]

What's ridiculous is that after a day of shooting acid into the right wingers' eyes you have the gall to claim it's CP's fault that one of them drove a car into your friends

Again, you show what an imbecile you are by making the absurd suggestion that I implied CP bares any responsibility for the actions of the Nazi protestors.

Let make it clear for you: CP is not a Nazi, nor is he responsible for their actions.

But you qualify as being both those things.