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Thread: Abrams calls for removal of Confederate faces off Stone Mountain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    don't give them any ideas
    They've been symbolically shredded by liberal judges in the court system already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    These are doubtless the same people who fainted at the sight of the Taliban blowing up buddha carvings.
    I was hoping somebody would mention that.

    1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    Next thing you know, they're going to want to tear up the Declaration of Independence...
    Especially that!
    Because it mentions...

    ...the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God...
    ...endowed by their Creator...
    ...a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence...

    1 Tim 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    Good.

    We should only honor truly great American leaders who didn't discriminate on the basis of race, like FDR.
    I happen to think FDR should be removed from the dime because of that.
    Something is always happening, but when it happens, people don't always see it, or understand it... or accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I happen to think FDR should be removed from the dime because of that.
    Just send me all the dimes you encounter, I'll take care of them.

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  7. Amen Jedidiah amen'd this post.
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    From a Christian perspective, there are some figures who are looked back on in the Old Testament who are examples of true faith like David, and we know David did his share of horrible things. On the other hand, he repented. The leaders who were slave owners, for the most part, never saw a problem with what they did so their legacy is different. I wouldn't say different in the sense that it undoes all the good they ever did but it is a mixed legacy to be sure.
    Something is always happening, but when it happens, people don't always see it, or understand it... or accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    don't give them any ideas
    They are already working on it. MM has not added anything to their repertoire.
    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    From a Christian perspective, there are some figures who are looked back on in the Old Testament who are examples of true faith like David, and we know David did his share of horrible things. On the other hand, he repented. The leaders who were slave owners, for the most part, never saw a problem with what they did so their legacy is different. I wouldn't say different in the sense that it undoes all the good they ever did but it is a mixed legacy to be sure.
    David knowingly did wrong things tho, and not trivial things either. He murdered a man to have sex with his wife. The bible can reasonably be interpreted to permit slavery so it's likely that many slaveowners had no problem with it.

    Also, it's impossible to find historical figures who are completely innocent. Do you think native american symbolism should also be removed from the public square in light of the fact that they also owned slaves and waged war on the united states like the confederacy did?
    "Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, the wrath of the Lord is on you." ~ 2 Chronicles 19:2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Man View Post
    I'm not sure what they think erasing history will accomplish.

    Next thing you know, they're going to want to tear up the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution because they were written by white slave owners.
    They're not intending to erase history. They think that the statues and other commemorations they're removing celebrate people whose flaws outweigh their good, so they should no longer be celebrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Executor View Post
    Also, it's impossible to find historical figures who are completely innocent.
    I know. It dovetails nicely with the belief I've stated elsewhere that I believe statues are inherently idolatrous anyway.
    Something is always happening, but when it happens, people don't always see it, or understand it... or accept it.

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