Escatological derail from North Korea thread

[Sparko]

And what you "figure" matters why? What matters is what the Bible says will happen. "Tribulation" means test and the test isn't for the ungodly. Pre-trib rapture is a false doctrine created to weaken the resolve of the church.

Even if there is no pre-trib rapture, if I die in the tribulation I still go and meet Jesus and come back down with him. I can't lose.

[Darfius]

Even if there is no pre-trib rapture, if I die in the tribulation I still go and meet Jesus and come back down with him. I can't lose.

Scripture Verse: 1 Corinthians 9:

24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. 25 Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. 26 Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. 27 No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

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Does this passage make any sense to you or to the other run-their-mouthers here? What does Paul mean by disqualified? Hadn't he already done the hard part by running his mouth about how much he loved Jesus?

[Jedidiah]

Belief involves more than certain words coming out of your mouth. Or were you unaware that faith without deeds is dead?

It is surely true that faith without works is dead, but signing on to a specific view of our Lord's return is not one of those works. If you want to know what we are to do read my sig.

[Sparko]

Scripture Verse: 1 Corinthians 9:

24 Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. 25 Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last, but we do it to get a crown that will last forever. 26 Therefore I do not run like someone running aimlessly; I do not fight like a boxer beating the air. 27 No, I strike a blow to my body and make it my slave so that after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified for the prize.

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Does this passage make any sense to you or to the other run-their-mouthers here? What does Paul mean by disqualified? Hadn't he already done the hard part by running his mouth about how much he loved Jesus?

He is talking about people like you who run their mouths aimlessly and fight against imaginary enemies.

I bet it will be really lonely in heaven all by yourself, Darfy.

[Christianbookworm]

Wouldn't persecuting Christians be as dangerous as messing with a baby animal when it's parent catches you? In the long run, that is. Because God is much more patient than a mother bear/papa wolf/human parent. So, He'll give the persecutors chances to stop messing with His "children". Darfius seems to be claiming that "baby bear cubs" should be able to defend themselves against predators/stupid hikers and that "mama bear" will disown them if they don't spot a predator before it shows up. How silly can you get! And Jesus said He wished He could gather Jerusalem as a mother hen gathers her chicks, so it's fine to have the mother bear comparison, right?

[Darfius]

Wouldn't persecuting Christians be as dangerous as messing with a baby animal when it's parent catches you? In the long run, that is. Because God is much more patient than a mother bear/papa wolf/human parent. So, He'll give the persecutors chances to stop messing with His "children". Darfius seems to be claiming that "baby bear cubs" should be able to defend themselves against predators/stupid hikers and that "mama bear" will disown them if they don't spot a predator before it shows up. How silly can you get! And Jesus said He wished He could gather Jerusalem as a mother hen gathers her chicks, so it's fine to have the mother bear comparison, right?

Scripture Verse: Matthew 10:

16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17 Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

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Scripture Verse: 1 Corinthians 13

11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

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[Darfius]

He is talking about people like you who run their mouths aimlessly and fight against imaginary enemies.

I bet it will be really lonely in heaven all by yourself, Darfy.

Just because this is a joke of a Christian site doesn't mean I'll be alone, Sparkplug.

[Christianbookworm]

Scripture Verse: Matthew 10:

16 “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17 Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 18 On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

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Scripture Verse: 1 Corinthians 13

11 When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put the ways of childhood behind me. 12 For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

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Too bad my skills are closer to Jimmy Olsen than Bruce Wayne. Being clever won't help you in a persecution scenario. And I doubt that US citizens would allow the USA to become like North Korea or 1984.

[Sparko]

Just because this is a joke of a Christian site doesn't mean I'll be alone, Sparkplug.

You seem to think only you have the "right" way and anyone who disagrees even slightly with your ideas about how everything will happen will end up in hell.

Do you really think it matters if someone believes in a pre-trib or post-trib rapture? Do you really think it matters if someone is an orthodox preterist or a futurist?

Of course you do. Because you are a pharisee.

[Christianbookworm]

You seem to think only you have the "right" way and anyone who disagrees even slightly with your ideas about how everything will happen will end up in hell.

Do you really think it matters if someone believes in a pre-trib or post-trib rapture? Do you really think it matters if someone is an orthodox preterist or a futurist?

Of course you do. Because you are a pharisee.

Does he think that being an action hero is a requirement for salvation?

[Darfius]

You seem to think only you have the "right" way and anyone who disagrees even slightly with your ideas about how everything will happen will end up in hell.

Do you really think it matters if someone believes in a pre-trib or post-trib rapture? Do you really think it matters if someone is an orthodox preterist or a futurist?

Of course you do. Because you are a pharisee.

Truth matters. The Pharisees didn't care about the truth. Neither do you. You have your little club here which is a microcosm of the fat, American (Laodicean) church and you're content. God would rather you be hot or cold.

[Darfius]

Does he think that being an action hero is a requirement for salvation?

There's a lot of middleground between just running your mouth and being an action hero, dear. Come on in, the living water's fine. ;)

[Christianbookworm]

There's a lot of middleground between just running your mouth and being an action hero, dear. Come on in, the living water's fine. ;)

Why do you think I live in the United States? And it's a really big country. Each state is practically its own mini nation. So, you can't paint everyone in said country with the same brush. I'm not telling you which country I presently live in.

[Sparko]

Truth matters. The Pharisees didn't care about the truth. Neither do you. You have your little club here which is a microcosm of the fat, American (Laodicean) church and you're content. God would rather you be hot or cold.

He would rather you obey him and love your neighbor as yourself. But that ain't gonna happen.

[Darfius]

He would rather you obey him and love your neighbor as yourself. But that ain't gonna happen.

I do love you, Sparkplug, which is why I'm telling you the truth. The sappy stuff comes later, when you love the truth and we can actually be friends.