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Originally posted by Sparko View PostHow can there be minorities if there are no races?
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostTake an extreme and hypobolic example: imagine that Hitler is coming to speak at your college in the early 1920s about the dangers of the Jewish people. Would it be fascist to disrupt his speech, even without knowing where his career was headed? I certainly don't think so. Anyone stopping him would be allying him or herself with the plight of the Jewish people and against the threat of fascism. So clearly in some circumstances speech abridgment isn't fascist. I don't know a few of those people, but for the ones that I do know, I think their speeches would be applicable circumstances.
I know you mean those to be terrifying things, but they already happened in other countries and they don't live in a fascist state. Those countries are still just like the US. There were no real consequences.
On the other hand, countries where they legally codify ideas like giving as much power as possible to the wealthy or limiting the rights of minorities don't turn out very well.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostJust because humans don't exist in biological races
https://bethematch.org/transplant-ba...fect-matching/"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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I agree that while there's nothing wrong with university protests, shutting down Milo, and others of his type wasn't the way forward. Unfortunately liberals in the US have pretty much lost the art of debate. They don't need the Antifa, in fact the Antifa is hurting the liberal cause significantly. What they need are savvy debaters. Milo is just a troll. Nothing more. A sharp debater that can see through his nonsense, and could work a good rhetoric would peel him apart alive. The modern day US liberals can't even muster that, and I suspect its part of the explanation of why they tend to fail.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI agree that while there's nothing wrong with university protests, shutting down Milo, and others of his type wasn't the way forward. Unfortunately liberals in the US have pretty much lost the art of debate. They don't need the Antifa, in fact the Antifa is hurting the liberal cause significantly. What they need are savvy debaters. Milo is just a troll. Nothing more. A sharp debater that can see through his nonsense, and could work a good rhetoric would peel him apart alive. The modern day US liberals can't even muster that, and I suspect its part of the explanation of why they tend to fail."As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Leonhard View PostI agree that while there's nothing wrong with university protests, shutting down Milo, and others of his type wasn't the way forward. Unfortunately liberals in the US have pretty much lost the art of debate. They don't need the Antifa, in fact the Antifa is hurting the liberal cause significantly. What they need are savvy debaters. Milo is just a troll. Nothing more. A sharp debater that can see through his nonsense, and could work a good rhetoric would peel him apart alive. The modern day US liberals can't even muster that, and I suspect its part of the explanation of why they tend to fail.
Black Lives Matter Activists Float Criminalization of Confederate Imagery
Some radical progressives go beyond statues, suggest total ban on Southern Civil War memorabilia
In the aftermath of violence at a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, progressive activists nationwide have demanded, and in some cases illegally carried out, the tearing down and removal of statues and monuments to Confederate leaders and soldiers on public space. .
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/b...erate-imagery/
Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThis isn't fascism. It's stupid, but it's not fascism. People need to stop misusing that word. You think Hitler or Mussolini would've put any law in favor of transgenders into effect?
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThis isn't fascism. It's stupid, but it's not fascism. People need to stop misusing that word. You think Hitler or Mussolini would've put any law in favor of transgenders into effect?"As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostThis isn't fascism. It's stupid, but it's not fascism. People need to stop misusing that word. You think Hitler or Mussolini would've put any law in favor of transgenders into effect?Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostYou don't think actively suppressing free speech is fascist?
Whether or not Hitler et al would have supported transgenderism is entirely beside the point. It's the act of punishing dissent that makes this the very definition of fascism.
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Originally posted by Psychic Missile View PostThe leftist strategy of stopping nursing home attendants from harassing patients* and protesting white supremacists... Prevent neonazis from speaking... Sounds fascist to me!
You should be using this outrage-based energy on people who want to commit genocide, not the people who want you to call people by different pronouns. Your priorities are messed up. Ask yourself "why am I focusing on people who I merely suspect of having a nefarious endgame and not the people who are explicit about their nefarious endgame?""The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Terraceth View PostTons of communist countries did that too, were they fascist? No, of course not (fascists actually despised communists). Sure, suppression of free speech is part of fascism, but it's part of authoritarianism/totalitarianism in general, of which fascism is just one example.
Except that's not the definition of fascism. Again, fascism may have involved suppression of speech, but it was also extremely militarist and nationalist (not the case here) and was also quite conservative in regards to sexual mores, which is exactly the opposite of this edict.Atheism is the cult of death, the death of hope. The universe is doomed, you are doomed, the only thing that remains is to await your execution...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbnueb2OI4o&t=3s
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